Paid Members Bellenda Carlisle 1,842 Posted February 11, 2019 Paid Members Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 Do you think big Willie was ever great? I agree with D Mal in never having got his appeal but he seems to be a hero to loads of people my age, or at least has been at various points. He certainly always seems to have thought highly of himself. I do think Men in Black was a perfect storm where his awful 90s mainstream rap sensibilities worked perfectly with that film but generally I'd give him a big thumbs down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid Members Wretch 581 Posted February 11, 2019 Paid Members Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 Thought he was very good in the Pursuit of Happyness, alright in Hitch and I love Men in Black but dogshit in anything else I've seen him in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LEGIT 225 Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) Fresh Prince was amazing. I liked Enemy of the State too. Independence Day was good for what it was. He went all annoying dad years ago though. So I vote yay to him once being good, but not so much anymore. Edited February 11, 2019 by LEGIT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gmoney 3,680 Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 Fresh Prince of Bel-Air 30% of his music Men in Black (First one) Enemy of the State Bad Boys 2 They're all good to great. Not a bad haul, but there is a lot of other stuff he's done and it's all pap to pish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Factotum 1,137 Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 A combination of pushing his weird kids and the fact that he cannot pick a decent film to be in have really diluted him. The Scientology shit also left a stink. Its weird because Will comes across as a genuinely nice bloke, but the rest of his family seem batshit and far removed from him (or at least the public persona of Will Smith) It seemed that around Ali time he really could push on into great actor territory, but he's made some awful missteps. He certainly can act, but he really needs a good role and soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moderators Chest Rockwell 6,203 Posted February 11, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) Great in comedy, terrible at drama. Remember that emotional scene in Fresh Prince where his real dad abandons him and he cries? He has continued to pull the same cry face ever since, every time a scene calls for any serious dramatic acting. Obviously a total dummy irl, too, that takes himself super seriously. Edited February 11, 2019 by Chest Rockwell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid Members Bellenda Carlisle 1,842 Posted February 11, 2019 Author Paid Members Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 minute ago, gmoney said: 30% of his music I think you're being very generous there  Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid Members Sergio Mendacious 1,384 Posted February 11, 2019 Paid Members Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 Perfectly serviceable actor who skated by on charisma a lot of the time, took the choices that resulted in big paydays and shit films more often than not, and was lucky to have had a great early 90s sitcom and singing career that means he gets a nostalgia pass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid Members ColinBollocks 1,384 Posted February 11, 2019 Paid Members Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) D-Mal definitely has a point, because he's never been in a truly great film - despite trying his hardest by doing that crying face. However, there was a time when his films were at least good fun. He's not made a film worth your time for over ten years now, which is pretty staggering considering how many goes he's had. Probably no coincidence it's timed perfectly with him proper outing himself as an insufferable dolt, as he's gotten older. Edited February 11, 2019 by ColinBollocks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid Members Devon Malcolm 11,795 Posted February 11, 2019 Paid Members Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) He's done the odd good thing. I never thought Fresh Prince was any good at all and I think I only watched it for Hilary. He should just throw himself into being a full-time action star. He's good in that genre. Anything else, he's absolute crap. Plus, it's not as if his action back catalogue is flawless - Bad Boys 2 and Bright are pitiful. But he has a better conversion rate there than anywhere else. By and large though, he's not a terribly good actor who thinks he's far better than he is, leading him to take roles way out of his league. Edited February 11, 2019 by Devon Malcolm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay 8,340 Posted February 11, 2019 Paid Members Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 He was alright, but wouldnt put him in the same league as his British counterpart Richard Blackwood. I did own the album Big Willie Style. I recall getting both that and Chef Aid for Christmas and for a few weeks thinking I was Tim Westwood. "I quite like the old rap genre, innit." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LEGIT 225 Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Devon Malcolm said: I never thought Fresh Prince was any good at all Wtf Gladders man? I honestly though you had taste. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid Members Devon Malcolm 11,795 Posted February 11, 2019 Paid Members Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 Just now, LEGIT said: Wtf Gladders man? I honestly though you had taste. It's not though. I think many people who watched it back now would wonder to themselves what they saw in it in the first place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LEGIT 225 Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 Just now, Devon Malcolm said: It's not though. I think many people who watched it back now would wonder to themselves what they saw in it in the first place. I watched it back a year or so ago when Comedy Central repeated it. I was doubled over on the living room floor in stitches, in agony, it was hilarious. Do yourself a favour and watch the pool hall episode. It admittedly got worse towards the end.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gmoney 3,680 Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bellenda Carlisle said: I think you're being very generous there   I'd say the highlighted off his greatest hits plus Boom! Shake the Room (why the fuck isn't that on there?!) were excellent singles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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