Bellenda Carlisle 521 Report post Posted February 11 Do you think big Willie was ever great? I agree with D Mal in never having got his appeal but he seems to be a hero to loads of people my age, or at least has been at various points. He certainly always seems to have thought highly of himself. I do think Men in Black was a perfect storm where his awful 90s mainstream rap sensibilities worked perfectly with that film but generally I'd give him a big thumbs down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wretch 132 Report post Posted February 11 Thought he was very good in the Pursuit of Happyness, alright in Hitch and I love Men in Black but dogshit in anything else I've seen him in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LEGIT 51 Report post Posted February 11 (edited) Fresh Prince was amazing. I liked Enemy of the State too. Independence Day was good for what it was. He went all annoying dad years ago though. So I vote yay to him once being good, but not so much anymore. Edited February 11 by LEGIT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gmoney 983 Report post Posted February 11 Fresh Prince of Bel-Air 30% of his music Men in Black (First one) Enemy of the State Bad Boys 2 They're all good to great. Not a bad haul, but there is a lot of other stuff he's done and it's all pap to pish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Factotum 204 Report post Posted February 11 A combination of pushing his weird kids and the fact that he cannot pick a decent film to be in have really diluted him. The Scientology shit also left a stink. Its weird because Will comes across as a genuinely nice bloke, but the rest of his family seem batshit and far removed from him (or at least the public persona of Will Smith) It seemed that around Ali time he really could push on into great actor territory, but he's made some awful missteps. He certainly can act, but he really needs a good role and soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chest Rockwell 2,040 Report post Posted February 11 (edited) Great in comedy, terrible at drama. Remember that emotional scene in Fresh Prince where his real dad abandons him and he cries? He has continued to pull the same cry face ever since, every time a scene calls for any serious dramatic acting. Obviously a total dummy irl, too, that takes himself super seriously. Edited February 11 by Chest Rockwell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bellenda Carlisle 521 Report post Posted February 11 1 minute ago, gmoney said: 30% of his music I think you're being very generous there  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sergio Mendacious 984 Report post Posted February 11 Perfectly serviceable actor who skated by on charisma a lot of the time, took the choices that resulted in big paydays and shit films more often than not, and was lucky to have had a great early 90s sitcom and singing career that means he gets a nostalgia pass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColinBollocks 689 Report post Posted February 11 (edited) D-Mal definitely has a point, because he's never been in a truly great film - despite trying his hardest by doing that crying face. However, there was a time when his films were at least good fun. He's not made a film worth your time for over ten years now, which is pretty staggering considering how many goes he's had. Probably no coincidence it's timed perfectly with him proper outing himself as an insufferable dolt, as he's gotten older. Edited February 11 by ColinBollocks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Devon Malcolm 3,246 Report post Posted February 11 (edited) He's done the odd good thing. I never thought Fresh Prince was any good at all and I think I only watched it for Hilary. He should just throw himself into being a full-time action star. He's good in that genre. Anything else, he's absolute crap. Plus, it's not as if his action back catalogue is flawless - Bad Boys 2 and Bright are pitiful. But he has a better conversion rate there than anywhere else. By and large though, he's not a terribly good actor who thinks he's far better than he is, leading him to take roles way out of his league. Edited February 11 by Devon Malcolm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IANdrewDiceClay 2,476 Report post Posted February 11 He was alright, but wouldnt put him in the same league as his British counterpart Richard Blackwood. I did own the album Big Willie Style. I recall getting both that and Chef Aid for Christmas and for a few weeks thinking I was Tim Westwood. "I quite like the old rap genre, innit." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LEGIT 51 Report post Posted February 11 3 minutes ago, Devon Malcolm said: I never thought Fresh Prince was any good at all Wtf Gladders man? I honestly though you had taste. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Devon Malcolm 3,246 Report post Posted February 11 Just now, LEGIT said: Wtf Gladders man? I honestly though you had taste. It's not though. I think many people who watched it back now would wonder to themselves what they saw in it in the first place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LEGIT 51 Report post Posted February 11 Just now, Devon Malcolm said: It's not though. I think many people who watched it back now would wonder to themselves what they saw in it in the first place. I watched it back a year or so ago when Comedy Central repeated it. I was doubled over on the living room floor in stitches, in agony, it was hilarious. Do yourself a favour and watch the pool hall episode. It admittedly got worse towards the end.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gmoney 983 Report post Posted February 11 3 minutes ago, Bellenda Carlisle said: I think you're being very generous there   I'd say the highlighted off his greatest hits plus Boom! Shake the Room (why the fuck isn't that on there?!) were excellent singles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
