Paid Members Carbomb Posted May 28, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted May 28, 2021 26 minutes ago, garynysmon said: I love the fact that to this day when speaking Welsh, Iwan Roberts still sounds like he never spent a day living outside of Harlech. Figured I'd ask this here, but what are the most distinctive dialects and accents in Welsh? And what would be considered "standard" Welsh (like RP in English, or Tours French)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members garynysmon Posted May 28, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted May 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, Carbomb said: Figured I'd ask this here, but what are the most distinctive dialects and accents in Welsh? And what would be considered "standard" Welsh (like RP in English, or Tours French)? There are four main dialects really. You have that of Gwynedd and Anglesey (who tend to use 'a' rather than 'e' in many words), that of the north east and the coastal region (which can sound a bit more scouse over recent generations), west Wales (which is probably the most pleasurable to the ear) and Wenhwyseg around Gwent and much of the south. The Welsh spoken in Gwynedd and Anglesey has grown over recent decades to be seen as the closest thing to 'standard,' but to the detriment of other areas really. I think its because of people like Anglesey-born John Morris-Jones, who did a lot to standardise Welsh orthography. But as a result you'll often hear people in Carmarthenshire, for instance, say their Welsh "isn't good enough" but its just another dialect like Geordie or Scouse and is no lesser than mine. Its total bollocks really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted May 28, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted May 28, 2021 2 hours ago, garynysmon said: There are four main dialects really. You have that of Gwynedd and Anglesey (who tend to use 'a' rather than 'e' in many words), that of the north east and the coastal region (which can sound a bit more scouse over recent generations), west Wales (which is probably the most pleasurable to the ear) and Wenhwyseg around Gwent and much of the south. The Welsh spoken in Gwynedd and Anglesey has grown over recent decades to be seen as the closest thing to 'standard,' but to the detriment of other areas really. I think its because of people like Anglesey-born John Morris-Jones, who did a lot to standardise Welsh orthography. But as a result you'll often hear people in Carmarthenshire, for instance, say their Welsh "isn't good enough" but its just another dialect like Geordie or Scouse and is no lesser than mine. Its total bollocks really. Thanks, man - always love reading stuff like this. OK - if I get back to learning Welsh, will make sure to learn western Welsh. Is there a tendency towards the Anglesey and Gwynedd dialects in media, like S4C, in the way RP was considered "BBC English"? Or do you get a broad smattering? (When I started learning Arabic, it was mainly because there were so many Arabs from different countries working there. The first thing I learned is never to tell an Arab that you're learning Arabic, because they will always tell you to learn their dialect - Egyptian is apparently the most universally understood, because of the popularity of Egyptian TV and film, Gulf Arabic is considered classical, Jordanian is considered the most "pure", etc. Eventually, I got chatting to two ladies at work, one Iraqi and one Algerian, and they both said Lebanese was the sexiest, so I started learning that.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members garynysmon Posted May 28, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted May 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, Carbomb said: Thanks, man - always love reading stuff like this. OK - if I get back to learning Welsh, will make sure to learn western Welsh. Is there a tendency towards the Anglesey and Gwynedd dialects in media, like S4C, in the way RP was considered "BBC English"? Or do you get a broad smattering? Erm, probably yes but more because the language is more widely spoken there, rather than a conscious effort to use the accent, if that makes sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted May 28, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted May 28, 2021 3 hours ago, garynysmon said: Erm, probably yes but more because the language is more widely spoken there, rather than a conscious effort to use the accent, if that makes sense? Cool! Thanks for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBacon Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 No idea where else to put this, but I've just had THE most Bristolian guy drop off a printer at work, bidding us all farewell with "Tatty Byes". Lovely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallicks Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 On 1/2/2019 at 8:51 AM, HarmonicGenerator said: Does anyone know if there are useful ways to start learning BSL online, or do you need to attend a course? Did you find anything? I can only find in person classes or online tutoring at £20/hr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awards Moderator HarmonicGenerator Posted August 13, 2021 Awards Moderator Share Posted August 13, 2021 56 minutes ago, hallicks said: Did you find anything? I can only find in person classes or online tutoring at £20/hr. I did not, sorry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Jazzy G Posted August 14, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted August 14, 2021 (edited) There's this one that's currently offering a course charged at "pay what you can during these difficult times" https://www.british-sign.co.uk/learn-online-british-sign-language-course/ For some reason, probably because I was listening to the Red Dwarf audio books on Audible, I've started doing the Esperanto course on Duolingo. It's surprisingly easy. There's a structure to it, no masculine/feminine forms. If you've done one of the Romantic languages before it's an easy one to pick up. EDIT: There are obviously words for he, she, him, her, his, hers etc, but there's only one "the". Edited August 14, 2021 by jazzygeofferz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted August 14, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted August 14, 2021 As to BSL, there are a fair few free apps online. I can't speak as to how effective they are, though. @jazzygeofferz - only thing I can say is the infamous RD sentence: "Bonvolu alsendi la pordiston, lausajne estas rano en mia bideo". @Ronnie speaks Esperanto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members gmoney Posted August 14, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted August 14, 2021 8 hours ago, Carbomb said: As to BSL, there are a fair few free apps online. I can't speak as to how effective they are, though. Sign surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted August 14, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted August 14, 2021 Just now, gmoney said: Sign surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 I think that's a gag that works better spoken... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted August 15, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted August 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Sphinx said: I think that's a gag that works better spoken... Unlike most of my gags, which work better not being made at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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