NoUseforaUsername Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 It's amazing how ingrained attitudes like these ones are about women. I'm not preaching from the pulpit, I'm guilty of it myself, but here we are in 2018, female wrestling has never been in a better place, to the extent where there is talk of Ronda and Charlotte main eventing WM next year, yet when the chips fall they are still basically judged on their appearance. I mean, have Steve Austin, The Rock, HHH or Undertaker ever been mocked because of their appearance? It shouldn't have anything to do with anything. I think she's a pretty girl and doesn't need all that make up, but it's her choice, and it doesn't have any relevance to her work.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord-Mountevans Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 21 minutes ago, NoUseforaUsername said: It's amazing how ingrained attitudes like these ones are about women. I'm not preaching from the pulpit, I'm guilty of it myself, but here we are in 2018, female wrestling has never been in a better place, to the extent where there is talk of Ronda and Charlotte main eventing WM next year, yet when the chips fall they are still basically judged on their appearance. I mean, have Steve Austin, The Rock, HHH or Undertaker ever been mocked because of their appearance? It shouldn't have anything to do with anything. I think she's a pretty girl and doesn't need all that make up, but it's her choice, and it doesn't have any relevance to her work.  In wrestling your appearance is VERY important. I can't think of a single industry that "perception is reality" is more relevant. Not just from the performers, but from almost everyone involved in the product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-d-d-dAz Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 30 minutes ago, NoUseforaUsername said: mean, have Steve Austin, The Rock, HHH or Undertaker ever been mocked because of their appearance?  Austin has enjoyed his fair share of bald bastard jokes; Triple H has spent an entire career mocked for the size of his nose and every time he takes a break from the jumbo juice heâs called fat; The Undertaker is routinely mocked for having the hair of Pat Butcher, the face of a scrambled crepe, the tan of a hangover piss and a pair of spaniels ears for norks; The Rock is literally mocked for having had a boob job. Wrestling is an aesthetic business. Itâs looks, front and centre, despite what the mutants want you to believe. If we were to not judge womenâs acts on their looks, weâd weirdly be doing them a disservice as the first insult of a males act is usually aesthetics related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members FLips Posted April 14, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted April 14, 2018 Baron Corbin has the hair of a middle aged bloke you'd see down a grotty pub at noon on a weekday, and his belly has a face in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Tommy! Posted April 14, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted April 14, 2018 2 hours ago, NoUseforaUsername said: I mean, have Steve Austin, The Rock, HHH or Undertaker ever been mocked because of their appearance? Yes, regularly. Personally I think it's a shame she, like lots of people, feel the need to cover themselves in makeup to try and reach an 'expectation'. People have control over that and make that choice, and so it's not an unreasonable observation even if it says more about the world at large than her as an individual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Kat Von D Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Tommy! said: Personally I think it's a shame she, like lots of people, feel the need to cover themselves in makeup to try and reach an 'expectation'. People have control over that and make that choice, and so it's not an unreasonable observation even if it says more about the world at large than her as an individual. You know most women wear make up because they like wearing it? The way people present themselves to the world is usually down to the aesthetic they prefer, not an attempt to meet other peopleâs expectations. What a daft thing to say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paid Members Tommy! Posted April 14, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 hour ago, UK Kat Von D said: You know most women wear make up because they like wearing it? It seems far more prevalent in some cultures than others because society dictates, to an extent, what we feel comfortable doing as an individual. To ignore that people like wareing makeup to excess because that is what is perceived as the social norm I would say is short sighted. Even worse in my view are slew of online 'makeup artist' who make a so called job out YouTube videos of how to paint your eyebrows back on with a lump of coal or colour yourself orange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Danger Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 On here the fellas are mocked for appearances far more than the ladies ever are. Fatt Hardy, Spaghetti head Ziggler, Ken Kennedy and his dental floss arms, Undertaker looking like a dead transvestite, every wrestler with moobs, Cena's weird asymmetrical ears. The comments are vast. In Paige's case it sticks out more because even though she's always been caked in make up it's a change of style that some would consider to be more in keeping with the other divas and she's meant to be different. The fact she looks like Barbara Cartland playing dress up doesn't help like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Kat Von D Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Tommy! said: It seems far more prevalent in some cultures than others because society dictates, to an extent, what we feel comfortable doing as an individual. To ignore that people like wareing makeup to excess because that is what is perceived as the social norm I would say is short sighted. Even worse in my view are slew of online 'makeup artist' who make a so called job out YouTube videos of how to paint your eyebrows back on with a lump of coal or colour yourself orange. Calm down and keep your fedora on fella. I dated one of those âmake up artistsâ for 18 months. Just before she turned 21 a company paid her ÂŁ4000 to do three Instagram posts featuring their products. Sounds pretty good for a âso called job.â Edited April 14, 2018 by UK Kat Von D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members PJ Power Posted April 14, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted April 14, 2018 On 13/04/2018 at 8:30 PM, UK Kat Von D said: Wrestlemania needs a woman to name the battle royal after and she would be as solid choice. I don't think she's dead yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members PunkStep Posted April 14, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted April 14, 2018 There's no way she's more deserving of a battle royal named after her than the Bellas, in fairness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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d-d-d-dAz Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, PunkStep said: There's no way she's more deserving of a battle royal named after her than the Bellas, in fairness. Or Lita who, despite getting the odd run out these days, gets nowhere near the props she deserves for what she did for the womenâs division. Paige is a trail blazer, no doubt, but the womenâs division Lita had to navigate was way trickier; it was barely more than soft porn when she started. Lita and Trish stand out. Lita because she was what she was in spite of the context (and despite often having to pay lip service to what was âexpectedâ of a WWE diva) and Trish because she started out by embodying that context and then became something else. I genuinely donât think thereâs any two wrestlers alive more influential than those two. Edited April 14, 2018 by d-d-d-dAz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstnameunknown Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 hour ago, d-d-d-dAz said: Lita and Trish stand out. I genuinely donât think thereâs any two wrestlers alive more influential than those two. Hogan? Flair? Rock? Michaels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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