Paid Members Tommy! Posted January 12, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) Jericho's first big wwe debt is terribly over rated in my view from the general opinion out on the net. I don't think he's had many good ones to be honest, that one where he wailed on about strapping in as he was making raw fun again as he stood in a waistcoat was painful to watch. Â What makes it worse is he seems to believe he really is amazing and he's just not. He was a great midcard face and comedy heel and he had that great run punching Mrs Michaels, but who wouldn't have great matches with Shawn. His run with Rey was good as well to be fair, but for such a long run in the top 2 it's not up to what seems to be his own self perception. I honestly don't want to see him on my tv in 2016. Â He's more Tito than Rock and he doesn't have any nostalgia left in him either as he burnt that out. Edited January 12, 2016 by Tommy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_3165 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I think with Jericho is that he has always been a solid hand but barring a couple of great matches with top talent he hasn't achieved all that much for someone who thinks he is one of the all time greats. His title reigns were often a little flat, especially his first in 2001/2. He had some blistering matches with Mysterio and Michaels as cited previously and he had a few good clashes with the Rock and Benoit too but then who hasn't?  He was probably at his best in terms of character in 2000 when he was relatively fresh but still well established in the WWF. I've never seen him as a 'worker' or a 'great' but maybe I have missed the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted January 12, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 12, 2016 I've discovered if I watch Raw on mute and play good music in the background and skip all the promos/backstage stuff Raw is actually a really bloody fun way to spend an hour and a half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members ColinBollocks Posted January 12, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) In fairness, I've heard/read Jericho talk about how he thinks his WWF debut and the WWE re-debut could be better. I forget the show (good chance it was Jericho's decent WWE documentary), but he admitted he was shite and hammy during his exchange with The Rock. Â I've not seen 2016 Jericho yet, but I can only assume it's as bad as his last run on the telly. What's daft is in his last book he wrote he realised the old 2000-04 Jericho schtick was naff in 2008 and was wanting to change it up as soon as the nostalgia thing wore off (and it wore off super quick). Roll to 2016 and he's doing the shite he realised was well off 8 years ago. Similar to 2008, the more time spends doing the 2000 stuff the more it seems to diminish his star power - a heel run would well freshen him up. Edited January 12, 2016 by ColinBollocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Tommy! Posted January 12, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) A heel run would just get sour faced big word super cereal Jericho. While good we have seen it and I don't know if re hashing that is what will get me back watching and I can't see it getting any one who would over either. Edited January 12, 2016 by Tommy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briefcase Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) I was astonished that the commentary team (Cole?) said that Jericho was the favourite to win the rumble. Are they really that serious or think people would actually think he would win?  Brock throwing everyone about was good fun, it also made me realise that by him throwing Owen around like a fat nobody that the rumoured mania match should never ever happen, leagues apart. Did love the Sheamus exchanges though.  I was half expecting all the faces to run down to the ring and start fighting the heels (Ambrose, Ryback, Uso's etc) but I'm guessing that will happen on the go home raw before the rumble. Edited January 12, 2016 by Briefcase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members ColinBollocks Posted January 12, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 12, 2016 A heel run would just get sour faced big word super cereal Jericho. While good we have seen it and I don't know if re hashing that is what will get me back watching and I can't see it getting any one who would over either. All well and good, but I just want rid of annoying tit Jericho. He's the best version of himself as a heel, even if the sour faced thing was a bit played out by the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Tommy! Posted January 12, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 12, 2016 Â A heel run would just get sour faced big word super cereal Jericho. While good we have seen it and I don't know if re hashing that is what will get me back watching and I can't see it getting any one who would over either. All well and good, but I just want rid of annoying tit Jericho. He's the best version of himself as a heel, even if the sour faced thing was a bit played out by the end. Â Â That's another thing, his tits are creepy since what ever he had done with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Supremo Posted January 12, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 12, 2016 The thing with Jericho's chest, is that the desired result? Or was it botched? I can't conceive him looking in the mirror and thinking he looks good enough for world wide television. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallicks Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 That's what he wanted. Him and Kofi have had the same thing. Looks terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Clint Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Stephanie never used to really bother me, but lately she is actually starting to get on my fucking nerves. She really thinks the sun shines out of her father's arse. It's cringe the way she keeps putting him over every chance she gets in promos and backstage skits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Tommy! Posted January 12, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 12, 2016 That's what he wanted. Him and Kofi have had the same thing. Looks terrible. What can you do with these doctor? Â Well, we can remove some excesses tissue and augment the fat to give greater definition and a firmer pectoral. We can also redesign the areola to create a more aesthetic appearance after surgery. Â Sounds good but I tell you what, can you just fuck 'em up, make it look like I've had that weird head from total recall removed from my chest by the Swedish chef from the Muppets? Â Sure thing sir, just lie back and we'll get started. Â Â Â Chris, start the reactor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I was astonished that the commentary team (Cole?) said that Jericho was the favourite to win the rumble. Are they really that serious or think people would actually think he would win?  To be fair, this year the result is a bit less predictable than most years, because it isn't for a WrestleMania main event. A Jericho type could win the belt and lose it to someone good at Fastlane. He won't, but it's more feasible him losing the title back to Roman Reigns in February 2016 than it would be if the Rumble winner had to headline WrestleMania 32.    It's cringe  It's cringe to use cringe as an adjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetofthedeed Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Little off topic but jericho breaking xaviers trombone made me think, are there any instruments like a tuba only bigger? Got it stuck in my head that kofis big rumble spot is gonna involve him getting stuck in a large musical instrument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Sergio Mendacious Posted January 12, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) Subcontrabase tuba   Edited January 13, 2016 by Bill Diarrhea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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