Paid Members Scott Malbranque Posted September 13, 2014 Paid Members Posted September 13, 2014 So you're saying if the camera's caught each wrinkle, spot and fake tan skidmark on a wrestlers being, it would cease to make it less believable. Good man yerself, boss.
Shane O' Mac Version 2 Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 Not at all, I'm saying that the way wrestling is currently shot, you can easily see when a hold isn't as tight, and you can hear half the spot calling going on on Raw. Wasn't the case before all the big production upgrades.
Paid Members Big Benny HG Posted September 13, 2014 Paid Members Posted September 13, 2014 I miss the way you could slingshot a heel into the ring from standing on the apron by yanking the top rope towards you.
Paid Members gmoney Posted September 13, 2014 Paid Members Posted September 13, 2014 When was the last good, long criss-cross?
Paid Members Teedy Kay Posted September 13, 2014 Paid Members Posted September 13, 2014 Roman-Greco Knuckle Lock tests of strengths are well and truly gone.
Moderators PowerButchi Posted September 13, 2014 Moderators Posted September 13, 2014 Not at all, I'm saying that the way wrestling is currently shot, you can easily see when a hold isn't as tight, and you can hear half the spot calling going on on Raw. Wasn't the case before all the big production upgrades. Not really. You can still see when work is loose on old tapes.
Sphinx Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 But it's made more apparent when there are more mics and more cameras with clearer definition. Regardless of that, there were a lot of cringe worthy moments from that era I can think of - moreso than this era.
Sweet Clyde Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 All these throwbacks are great, you do miss a good test of strength. Bulldog v Warlord always comes to mind.. Also when the bad guys would avoid locking up early in the match and instead roll out and have a go at a fan at ringside, ya don't see that about much.
Undefeated Steak Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 Pulling the opponent's tights half way down their arse to prevent them from kicking out! I never knew why that rendered them unable to kick out.
Paid Members Arch Stanton Posted September 13, 2014 Paid Members Posted September 13, 2014 You still see that all the time. It's always done badly nowadays too, as if workers think that just holding the tights is in itself supposed to be an advantage, rather than yanking on them for added leverage.
King Pitcos Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 As much credit as Jake Roberts gets for psychology, he was useless at it in the WrestleMania 8 match against Undertaker. Doesn't sell Taker getting up from the DDT at all and just walks from spot to spot with nothing registering, like a slow motion version of Naomi from the Funkadactyls. At some points he doesn't even look at Undertaker to see him get up from what should be a match-ending move, he just gets into position straight away for the next move. Unless his psychology was that he knew going in that Undertaker would get up after everything, but that's shit storytelling.
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted September 13, 2014 Paid Members Posted September 13, 2014 Jake was only the master of psychology when he wanted to be, though. There was a chance he knew what he was doing. I remember Foley mentioning how well Triple H sold Cactus Jack coming back and saying if HHH just sniggered, it would make it look like Mankind in a different t-shirt. Maybe Jake knew what he was doing. Especially since he was on the way out.
King Pitcos Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 Oddly enough, that Triple H/Cactus Jack thing was exactly what I was thinking of when I watched it, because that kind of reaction Triple H did is how I'd imagine you'd sell someone getting up after the DDT in early 1992 if you were on the ball. I thought Jake must have been shitting the bed on purpose in the WrestleMania match, but it seems like a self-destructive way to undercut your opponent in terms of your own reputation. But I suppose it'd only have been other wrestlers and Meltzer who'd notice, and none of them had any influence on his future paydays anyway. Like the old tests of strength, sabotaging a match on purpose to stop your opponent getting over seems like a lost aspect in wrestling now. Hacksaw Jim Duggan rarely had a match where he didn't do it, but you can't imagine Daniel Bryan and Dean Ambrose ever deciding that's what their night will consist of.
Vamp Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 That's probably a mix of having no where else to go and Cena being pretty selfless really. I don't think there's ever been a story of him throwing a strop over losing or taking it on his own to not sell for someone has there? If the top guy is like that then everyone else kinda has to be.
King Pitcos Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 Cena came up with the ending of the SummerSlam match against Nexus, when he got up off the DDT and beat them. He regretted it afterwards though.
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