Hugh Thesz Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Another question is was Eddie Gilbert's shoot circa 1993 the first? If so what/who preceded it or sis Gilbert receive any hassle for exposing the inner working of wrestling in such a way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted September 20, 2013 Moderators Share Posted September 20, 2013 Bruiser Brody did one earlier, didn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pier Six Brawler Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 It all depends what you call a "shoot interview". Bruiser really didn't acknowledge that wrestling was worked in that interview. And I don't think it was officially sold anywhere either like the Eddie Gilbert one was. I think wrestlers have been doing "shoot interviews" for as long as wrestling has been worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stylin_and_Profilin Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Found Rick Martel's old RF shoot on my external hard drive from yonks ago. Must have downloaded it a while ago and forgot all about it. Â It's proper old school RF with even worse production values than the recent ones. Pretty thorough at just shy of 3hrs i've been watching it broken down into smaller parts across a few sittings. In fairness to Martel he is very personable and easy to listen to which is always a bonus and on a personal level seems like a very smart cookie who invested his money wisely and got away from wrestling with his money, health and legacy intact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted September 24, 2013 Author Paid Members Share Posted September 24, 2013 (edited) Has there ever been a Guest Booker DVD that you've finished watching and went "I wouldn't mind seeing that?" Al Snow's was built around Kane and Undertaker feuding. Robert Fuller wanted to bring in Shawn Michaels and have him feud with Hacksaw Duggan over the TV title. Cornette wanted to build the Invasion around matches such as Dusty and Hogan having time limit draw in the mid-card of WrestleMania. Russo wanted to do a WCW vs WWF feud using only Hall, Nash and Hogan. Demolition Ax planned out this intricate split of Demolition which I cant imagine anyone giving a shit about in 1990. I think Dutch Mantel's was the only one which was an improvement over what actually happened and that was only because he said he wanted Kimbo Slice to join TNA. I really like the first 45 minutes of the guest bookers, because its interviews about their prime and their philosophy as bookers. But the actual booking exercises are tosh. Edited September 24, 2013 by IANdrewDiceClay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daaaaaad! Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Sounds utterly cliched but Gabe Sapolsky booking the New ECW's first year was pretty good. He had the December to Dismember PPV headlined by Randy Orton vs. Ric Flair for the ECW title, which intrigued me since I thought he'd just be a massive workrate pervert. Of course the new ECW worked itself out eventually, but I'd far rather have seen what he had planned than Bobby Lashley beating everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegeta Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Anyone seen the Luger Timeline yet? If you have is it worth a watch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Sounds utterly cliched but Gabe Sapolsky booking the New ECW's first year was pretty good. He had the December to Dismember PPV headlined by Randy Orton vs. Ric Flair for the ECW title, which intrigued me since I thought he'd just be a massive workrate pervert. Of course the new ECW worked itself out eventually, but I'd far rather have seen what he had planned than Bobby Lashley beating everyone. Â To some extent I agree, but it sounds like it suffers from (a less retarded version of) the same thing that most of them do -- it ignores the reality of the time. In December 2006, Randy Orton was involved in Raw's top storyline with Edge and DX, you can't just take him out of that to have him wrestle for the ECW title. Unless he's pulling double duty, dunno if the shoot covered that. And Randy Orton vs Ric Flair in late 2006 makes nobody. WWE were trying to make Lashley the next top man at the time in a way they never really tried with anyone else again until Punk and Bryan. Â Cornette's is probably the worst I've heard, but Al Snow's was so weird as well. Al has an aggressive, off-putting vibe in shoot interviews which always puts me on the back foot. And the content of his booking is so stupid. He's doing the attitude era ostensibly, but he's booking it like a 1970s territory and using a modern roster except with Undertaker and Kane debuting as (or at least booked like) the new generic face/heel monsters on a slow collision course who will have a match a year from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted September 25, 2013 Paid Members Share Posted September 25, 2013 Has there ever been a Guest Booker DVD that you've finished watching and went "I wouldn't mind seeing that?" Al Snow's was built around Kane and Undertaker feuding. Robert Fuller wanted to bring in Shawn Michaels and have him feud with Hacksaw Duggan over the TV title. Cornette wanted to build the Invasion around matches such as Dusty and Hogan having time limit draw in the mid-card of WrestleMania. Russo wanted to do a WCW vs WWF feud using only Hall, Nash and Hogan. Demolition Ax planned out this intricate split of Demolition which I cant imagine anyone giving a shit about in 1990. I think Dutch Mantel's was the only one which was an improvement over what actually happened and that was only because he said he wanted Kimbo Slice to join TNA. I really like the first 45 minutes of the guest bookers, because its interviews about their prime and their philosophy as bookers. But the actual booking exercises are tosh. Â Completely agree with this. I stop watching the Guest Bookers when they start booking things. That part is actually really boring to watch anyway, watching Oliver writing on a whiteboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stylin_and_Profilin Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Anyone seen the Luger Timeline yet? If you have is it worth a watch? Â On the viewing schedule for tonight, looking forward to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegeta Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Let me know what you think of it and if its worth a watch, with it I get the feeling its either gonna be good or bad, no inbetween for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Just how big a star WAS Luger, really? I mean, he was around the industry for years, at or near the top level, but I can't think of a single match of his I remember. Â Was he a draw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGIT Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 but I can't think of a single match of his I remember. Whit? Then you couldn't have watch wrestling for the whole '90's. Do you not remember Royal Rumble 1994? Â Just how big a star WAS Luger, really? Check out the response he got at Starrcade '96 mush. He was over, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Butternut Squash Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Luger was a decent draw in the late eighties. His house show run with Flair was more successful than any other run from that period, including the Flair/Sting. He probably could have been major star if WCW didn't continually fuck him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Really enjoyed the Lex Luger timeline. He doesn't come off anywhere near as jaded, bitter, arrogant and conniving as most wrestlers do in shoot interviews. He's not a great talker, but he's really humble and he seems genuinely happy to be there and to be chatting about it. Â but I can't think of a single match of his I remember. Whit? Then you couldn't have watch wrestling for the whole '90's. Loki didn't really watch wrestling until Heat on channel 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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