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2 hours ago, Supremo said:

Yeah, Bret’s downgrade happens instantaneously at Summerslam in 1997. He’s already the WCW version of himself by the time he’s pissing about with The Patriot and having a worthless Flag Match on the undercard to Undertaker and Shawn’s Hell in a Cell.

In retrospect, he shouldn’t have ducked when Shawn swung the chair at Summerslam, hitting The Undertaker instead. That’s his Sliding Doors moment. The momentum of the entire business moves to Shawn, Taker and The Fed. He never gets it back.

 

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19 minutes ago, The Reverend said:

Following on from @air_raid above - just Tag Teams as a whole. Matching attire, styles that contemplated each other, team names - now it's just any two randoms paired up for a short time. When was there a Tag Team that lasted any great time, had a good look, looked like they could've fitted in with the stellar tag division of the 80s and 90s and that anyone really cared about? 

Young Bucks and FTR, most obviously. The Acclaimed, The Usos and New Day jump straight to mind too.

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43 minutes ago, The Reverend said:

Following on from @air_raid above - just Tag Teams as a whole. Matching attire, styles that contemplated each other, team names - now it's just any two randoms paired up for a short time. When was there a Tag Team that lasted any great time, had a good look, looked like they could've fitted in with the stellar tag division of the 80s and 90s and that anyone really cared about? 

The Usos and The New Day probably the only recent WWE examples. Peak MCMG elsewhere, IMHO.

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35 minutes ago, The Reverend said:

Following on from @air_raid above - just Tag Teams as a whole. Matching attire, styles that contemplated each other, team names - now it's just any two randoms paired up for a short time. When was there a Tag Team that lasted any great time, had a good look, looked like they could've fitted in with the stellar tag division of the 80s and 90s and that anyone really cared about? 

I feel there was definitely a long period of time where that was the case but recent years I think there has been more of an attempt. The women's divisions is still a bit higgledy piggledy though and almost act as something to keep people in feuds between singles feuds. 

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July 9th 2001, ECW reforms in the middle of a tag team match and has one of the most exciting RAW segments ever. By the main event your new ECW owner is Stephanie McMahon and she's inherited Shane Douglas' hat collection in the asset seizure. I hated this so much as a kid that I taped over the show post-ECW segment with next weeks RAW.

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The WCW logo was mentioned in the first post, but what goes hand in hand with that is the Nitro set. Such a downgrade going from the glorious set to the shifty metallic logo with the slippery ramp. 

Justin Credable being ECW Champ is about a big a downgrade as you can get too. 

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1 hour ago, The Reverend said:

Following on from @air_raid above - just Tag Teams as a whole. Matching attire, styles that contemplated each other, team names - now it's just any two randoms paired up for a short time. When was there a Tag Team that lasted any great time, had a good look, looked like they could've fitted in with the stellar tag division of the 80s and 90s and that anyone really cared about? 

Usos, New day had great runs to be fair. Young Bucks and FTR also if you’re that way inclined. 

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A lot of the "new style" title belts that WWE are using these days.

Classic title belts looked the business, didn't look overly flashy for the sake of being flashy and all had a bit of identity about them.  They were unique to the title they were.

I just think all the title belts now that are supposed to look vibrant and ramped up just look a bit naff.

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6 hours ago, Supremo said:

Yeah, Bret’s downgrade happens instantaneously at Summerslam in 1997. He’s already the WCW version of himself by the time he’s pissing about with The Patriot and having a worthless Flag Match on the undercard to Undertaker and Shawn’s Hell in a Cell.

In retrospect, he shouldn’t have ducked when Shawn swung the chair at Summerslam, hitting The Undertaker instead. That’s his Sliding Doors moment. The momentum of the entire business moves to Shawn, Taker and The Fed. He never gets it back.

“You’ve given my bad guy job to Shawn” said it all. WWF Champion in no man’s land.

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From the fantastic looking Undisputed Title to the awful looking Spinner belt. It made sense when Cena won it but it remained the same design for another 7/8 years after that

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