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People who were champions but were not champions


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17 minutes ago, AshC said:

Think Kerry made some shots as IC champ in 1990 after he'd already dropped it back to Mr. Perfect.

Survivor Series 90 for one. They'd taped the title change before the PPV when he came out as IC Champ fir the opener. 

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9 hours ago, AshC said:

Think Kerry made some shots as IC champ in 1990 after he'd already dropped it back to Mr. Perfect.

Survivor Series for a start.

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Didn't Foley mention in Have A Nice Day about them filming somebody losing the tag titles for an episode of Worldwide at Centre Stage a couple of weeks before they'd actually had chance to win them live on PPV? 

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31 minutes ago, jazzygeofferz said:

Didn't Foley mention in Have A Nice Day about them filming somebody losing the tag titles for an episode of Worldwide at Centre Stage a couple of weeks before they'd actually had chance to win them live on PPV? 

Basically, yeah - IIRC he says overheard Orndorff & Roma recording a promo about how they had beaten Cactus Jack & Kevin Sullivan for the belts, before he even knew him & Kevin were going to win them.

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16 hours ago, JNLister said:

The Luger deal in 1994 was in an era where they used to tape three weeks of the weekend TV at a time and have a week or two of lag (so they didn't tape an episode and get it to air that same week). That often meant the first episodes of Superstars and Challenge after a PPV had been taped weeks beforehand, so they often had to find a way round who held the belt.

I'd read a lot about this whole deal but never seen it before. Here's the video, great to see the crowd go mild when he's introduced.

 

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2 hours ago, libertine said:

The Freebirds at Wrestle War 91, they won the titles that night but with taping schedule had already lost them to The Steiners and didn't air for a few weeks after i believe

 

18 hours ago, air_raid said:

The Freebirds lost the belts to the Steiners on a TV taping six days before they won them from Doom on a PPV. They reigned for -6 days.

Taped Feb 18th for airing March 9th, if you want to be exact, with WrestleWar falling on the 24th. So on TV they were champions for 13 days.

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21 minutes ago, CL Punk said:

Did he throw the belt at Jim Cornette there?

Yeah, in the 'They had what planned' thread, there is a fuller video about it. He came out and took it off of Cornette and then Vince was like, hey let's pretend you're the champ and get announced as the champ.

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2 hours ago, Mr Butternut Squash said:

Ouch. Poor Lex. Talk about square peg in a round hole. Vince didn't get the appeal of Luger at all.

It was Vince's own fault, he tried to turn him into the next Hogan overnight.  One week he's The Narcissist and the next he's Mr America.

Still puzzles me to this day why they made such an effort pushing him all through the summer of '93 only to have him win via countout in the title match at SummerSlam.  By the time WrestleMania 10 came around nobody gave a fuck about Luger. He wasn't even on the card for the following PPV that year.

 

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1 hour ago, Perry said:

It was Vince's own fault, he tried to turn him into the next Hogan overnight.  One week he's The Narcissist and the next he's Mr America.

Still puzzles me to this day why they made such an effort pushing him all through the summer of '93 only to have him win via countout in the title match at SummerSlam.  By the time WrestleMania 10 came around nobody gave a fuck about Luger. He wasn't even on the card for the following PPV that year.

 

It wasn't a bad idea to push Luger as the next face of the WWF - being the Narcissist and being a patriot didn't have to be mutually exclusive. 

Bruce Pritchard goes into detail about what happened, and why Lex didn't get pushed all the way in the end, on the Something To Wrestle podcast: basically, the Lex Express was a great idea, because it was a novel way of getting him to connect with people on a personal basis - effectively a grassroots fan movement! The only problem was that he just didn't want to do it. He didn't like to doing all the fan service, shaking hands, signing autographs, etc., and he didn't want to travel on the bus, preferring to travel by plane. Think there was also a mention that he really preferred playing a heel, but, given how good he was as a blue-eye in wCw, that might just be Pritchard bullshitting.

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