The King of Old School Posted October 24 Author Share Posted October 24 12 hours ago, Supremo said: I’m in no way excusing anyone, but are all backstage segments pre-taped? I remember that one where Matt Riddle completely forgot his line with Asuka and just laughed himself out of shot. There’s no way they would have aired that if it was pre-taped. Carlito’s fucked either way, of course. If I was to guess, it was probably scripted or approved after a pre-tape, and no-one saw issue with it until the backlash happened, at which point it’s easier to just point the finger at the talent. Hunter doesn’t see race, anyway. He can’t be to blame. That was just Riddle's "character". Thick as fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Blog Posted Thursday at 07:26 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:26 PM 11 hours ago, The King of Old School said: That was just Riddle. Thick as fuck. Fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Xtreme_lives Posted Thursday at 10:06 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:06 PM I was in philly for work this week and took in RAW this week last minute. This being a two hour show flew by and I never normally bother with raw. The start of the show was red hot and they did the welcome to raw bit with the crowd 15 mins before so the seth rollins opener got us all going. Great idea to do this. On the negative, there's a good chance the Carlito was live. We often saw camera crews between segments and the breaks running backstage from ringside so it was likely live. On a positive watching the show live the camera work is exceptional and the reduction of camera shots since dunns removal means they can rebuild the announcer table during the first tag match with NO issue very clever. They also for the breaks do the entrance, run a lot of in show ads for wwe stuff then reset the entrance music and get the wrestlers back into their pre ad break positions nr enough same for matches they always work back to a spot roughly to where the match went to break. Jey Uso merch and signs were EVERYWHERE, philly loved uso more than anyone else. Post show two dark matches bayley and nia and a what i thought was billed as a tag match philly Street fight involving cody and Jacob fatu was actually a singles match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Hannibal Scorch Posted Saturday at 11:55 PM Paid Members Share Posted Saturday at 11:55 PM (edited) Looks like there was more to her going then we first thought (it’s from her instagram so it’s a real quote) Edited Saturday at 11:56 PM by Hannibal Scorch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-d-d-dAz Posted Sunday at 07:23 AM Share Posted Sunday at 07:23 AM (edited) 7 hours ago, Hannibal Scorch said: Looks like there was more to her going then we first thought (it’s from her instagram so it’s a real quote) If anything, I'd say there's less to it than first thought. It's WWE, when someone quickly disappears you assume something terrible has happened. This is just someone not liking their job and leaving. Good for her. That said 'my husband is a millionaire', on social is gross (provoked or not), and there is something quite fun about someone who wasn't very good at announcing (IN MY OPINION... jeez) thinking she was too good for it. Completely unsurprising, given her style of announcing, that she wanted to be more involved and have more TV time to herself. In general though, that's a weird perspective. 'Was only supposed to be my way in' is phrased as if both sides agreed that announcing was going to be her springboard to the stars; it sort of sounds like she took a job, got very popular at it, and then unilaterally decided she wanted better. Which is fine, but you can't have an issue with WWE not sharing that vision. Her music career will fail and she'll be back announcing, probably in AEW, before the end of next year. They may let her do backstage interviews so it feels like a promotion. Leaving the WWE because they won't let you be General Manager. What has the world come to. Edited Sunday at 07:26 AM by d-d-d-dAz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB6937 Posted Sunday at 08:12 AM Share Posted Sunday at 08:12 AM Definitely explains her announcing style a whole lot more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members JLM Posted Sunday at 08:43 AM Paid Members Share Posted Sunday at 08:43 AM (edited) Good for her for leaving a job she didn’t like, but also BAD FOR HER for thinking she’s too good for the job she didn’t like. Psychoanalysing strangers based on their responses to parasocial weirdos is a tricky business indeed. It’s been interesting seeing the tribal fans who almost universally adored her a week ago trying to pick their narrative to rationalise this. Because her initial post was so nice and didn’t give many specifics, they couldn’t write her off as an entitled diva who took her ball and went home like they did for Sasha Banks. Instead they went with “this is Ricochet’s fault”. I assume after clarifying her reasons she’ll be getting the burning hatred and misogyny more directly now. That’ll be nice for her. Edited Sunday at 08:44 AM by JLM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB6937 Posted Sunday at 08:51 AM Share Posted Sunday at 08:51 AM 7 minutes ago, JLM said: Good for her for leaving a job she didn’t like, but also BAD FOR HER for thinking she’s too good for the job she didn’t like. Psychoanalysing strangers based on their responses to parasocial weirdos is a tricky business indeed. It’s been interesting seeing the tribal fans who almost universally adored her a week ago trying to pick their narrative to rationalise this. Because her initial post was so nice and didn’t give many specifics, they couldn’t write her off as an entitled diva who took her ball and went home like they did for Sasha Banks. Instead they went with “this is Ricochet’s fault”. I assume after clarifying her reasons she’ll be getting the burning hatred and misogyny more directly now. That’ll be nice for her. And then of course if she ever comes back they'll have missed her so much and she'll be back to the best ever etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members FLips Posted Sunday at 09:00 AM Paid Members Share Posted Sunday at 09:00 AM I really don't see what all the fuss is about. She got a job at a company she wanted to work for and had aspirations to be a manager or on-screen talent, she even trained to be a wrestler there first but was given Ring Announcer. She excelled at the job she had and when it became apparent they had no interest in changing her roles she left. Good for her. If you got a job in retail with the aim to become a manager and after 3 years of being at the top of your game got told it wasn't happening then you would leave and find work elsewhere. Wrestling shouldn't be any different. It's not like nearly every other famous manager has went right into managing. They're mostly all unsuccessful wrestlers, assistants, photographers, or other talent that found their way into the job. There's nothing wrong with what she did or historically how she approached doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-d-d-dAz Posted Sunday at 09:13 AM Share Posted Sunday at 09:13 AM (edited) 33 minutes ago, JLM said: Good for her for leaving a job she didn’t like, but also BAD FOR HER for thinking she’s too good for the job she didn’t like. Psychoanalysing strangers based on their responses to parasocial weirdos is a tricky business indeed. Yeah pretty much. I don't think it's too ridiculous to be happy for anyone who has the bravery to leave a job they don't like (admittedly, her circumstances allow her this privilege where others might not be able to do so), but also think it's pretty shitty to think (or say out loud at least) she's above what many would consider a dream job. She was a marmite announcer and that's fine. If Justin Roberts had left saying he was doing so because he wanted to be a General Manager, this whole forum would be rinsing him but because she's slightly more popular she avoids that same criticism. I hope, like everyone who gets out of WWE and isn't a wrongun, she finds happiness. But I do think this is slight vindication for posters on here who've always said her style grated as it felt like she was trying to make it about her and make herself the star, given these posts on Instagram basically suggest that's exactly what she was doing and WWE didn't take the bait. Edited Sunday at 09:17 AM by d-d-d-dAz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Supremo Posted Sunday at 09:16 AM Paid Members Share Posted Sunday at 09:16 AM I didn’t know she was trained to wrestle or had aspirations beyond announcing. More fool them for not capitalising on that. The good will and recognition she’d built, there would’ve been money in a heel pie-facing her one week. That week when Ricochet was murdered and she abandoned her post was a cool bit of outside-of-the-box storytelling. A shame to think they only scratched the surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-d-d-dAz Posted Sunday at 09:18 AM Share Posted Sunday at 09:18 AM 1 minute ago, Supremo said: That week when Ricochet was murdered and she abandoned her post was a cool bit of outside-of-the-box storytelling. A shame to think they only scratched the surface. Careful Tony K doesnt see this, @Hannibal Scorch had just got over the idea of her turning up in AEW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members JLM Posted Sunday at 09:30 AM Paid Members Share Posted Sunday at 09:30 AM (edited) Ah I just can’t get on board with the idea that having ambitions beyond a job others would consider their dream job is inherently shitty. I don’t like the power that mindset gives to employers over workers. Also as @FLips mentioned, ring announcer was never her goal and was essentially given as a fallback/consolation prize. It’s not quite the same as Justin Roberts saying he wanted to be a manager or GM out of nowhere. I get that many would be happy for any role with WWE and that having the choice to walk away without massive risk is a privelege , but I just can’t be mad at her for exercising the option she’s lucky enough to have. Whether you consider her announcing style to be dressing for the job she wanted, trying to steal the spotlight/make it about her or simply trying to do the best possible job in the role she was given is a matter of how charitable you feel. I actually liked her as an announcer about as much as I like Justin Roberts. Sometimes nailed it for a big time feel at the right moments, other times way too overbearing and made me cringe. It doesn’t have any bearing on how I’d feel about them leaving their job if they wanted to do something else though. Edited Sunday at 09:31 AM by JLM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King of Old School Posted Sunday at 09:35 AM Author Share Posted Sunday at 09:35 AM That ridiculous announcing of Cody winning the belt at Mania did it for me, before that had no real opinion about her. What was she crying for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted Sunday at 09:36 AM Paid Members Share Posted Sunday at 09:36 AM Just now, The King of Old School said: That ridiculous announcing of Cody winning the belt at Mania did it for me, before that had no real opinion about her. What was she crying for? Because she likes him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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