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1 hour ago, quote the raven said:

Can I ask what the fear is? 

The whole nhs finished thing has been put to bed with the ring fence hasn’t it? 

Link please.

And yeah, that's the only thing that we have to fear from 10 more years of Tory government, sure.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/boris-johnson-to-enshrine-34bn-nhs-spending-pledge-into-law-11887014
 

earler in this thread people where saying the whole thing will go private. When I asked if the government would allow millions to die due to not being able to pay for treatment I was told they would.

Ralph a few pages back was worried for his parents and the nhs.

What else needs to happen before everyone accepts this is not the case? 

Social care needs to be sorted I will give you that. Workers rights bill and environmental conditions should be upheld shortly.

Im actually interested in getting others  options on this stuff. 

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The worry is what that NHS spending comprises. The fear is that NHS contracts will be given to subpar suppliers, and that unfavourable terms on drug prices would be written into new trade deals. So that money will be spent badly and the nhs will deteriorate.

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15 minutes ago, Chest Rockwell said:

The worry is what that NHS spending comprises. The fear is that NHS contracts will be given to subpar suppliers, and that unfavourable terms on drug prices would be written into new trade deals. So that money will be spent badly and the nhs will deteriorate.

That makes more sense. I thought the people here still believed in the end of free at point of use care. 
 
The question of new funds being eaten up in trade deals will take years to answer. 

One thing is for sure the current government have no wiggle room any success or failure will be solely on them. 

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2 minutes ago, quote the raven said:

That makes more sense. I thought the people here still believed in the end of free at point of use care. 
 
The question of new funds being eaten up in trade deals will take years to answer. 

One thing is for sure the current government have no wiggle room any success or failure will be solely on them. 

Many do because they've seen the way dentist services went, who the people donating to the Tory party are & many MP's links to private health operators. That's even before you count in the number of Tory MP's who have publicly championed an insurance based system (namely the former health secretary!).

This wont happen overnight, you'll see an increase in services no longer available for 'free' on the NHS (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/nov/29/revealed-nhs-plans-to-ration-34-unnecessary-tests-and-treatments)  & GP services getting harder to access. It'll be a case of 'You can wait or pay a small fee for the premium service'...This simply creates a two tier system which impacts the poor & elderly.

Again, look at the access people get to NHS dentists now, now apply that to the other health services. You might be lucky & have easy access to an NHS dentist? I don't.

 

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17 minutes ago, Dead Mike said:

Many do because they've seen the way dentist services went, who the people donating to the Tory party are & many MP's links to private health operators. That's even before you count in the number of Tory MP's who have publicly championed an insurance based system (namely the former health secretary!).

This wont happen overnight, you'll see an increase in services no longer available for 'free' on the NHS (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/nov/29/revealed-nhs-plans-to-ration-34-unnecessary-tests-and-treatments)  & GP services getting harder to access. It'll be a case of 'You can wait or pay a small fee for the premium service'...This simply creates a two tier system which impacts the poor & elderly.

 

 

The link does not work. What kind of services are they suggesting. 
 

 

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MRI X-ray ct scans.

If they do that lots of people are gunna die. 
 

It also states An NHS spokesperson said the document was out of date and had not been approved or implemented. 
 


 

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12 hours ago, Dead Mike said:

This wont happen overnight, you'll see an increase in services no longer available for 'free' on the NHS (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/nov/29/revealed-nhs-plans-to-ration-34-unnecessary-tests-and-treatments)  & GP services getting harder to access. It'll be a case of 'You can wait or pay a small fee for the premium service'...This simply creates a two tier system which impacts the poor & elderly.

Isn't that already the case? I've found in recent times that it's virtually impossible to get seen on the NHS in a timely manner unless it's an absolute emergency, and have personally went down the route of being seen privately. The same goes for family needing appointments with specialists and so forth. Being referred is a nightmare, taking months on end.

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Lots on Twitter currently about how the odds of Farage getting a knighthood have shortened somewhat. If that happens, I can imagine quite a lot of backlash. In fact, it has to be bollocks. Surely.

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1 hour ago, scratchdj said:

Lots on Twitter currently about how the odds of Farage getting a knighthood have shortened somewhat. If that happens, I can imagine quite a lot of backlash. In fact, it has to be bollocks. Surely.

I'd be shocked if that happened, despite what Twitter is saying.

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Farage was bought off with something to get him to drop half of the Brexit Party candidates at the election. So either Sir Nigel Farage or Lord Farage of Dover. The Tories definitely have the bollocks to have bought him off and Farage has wanted an honour for a long time. 

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