Paid Members Chris B Posted November 22, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted November 22, 2017 One of the other reasons Manson killed hippy culture is that a lot of people (including celebrities) didn't believe he was guilty at first. Some people saw it as Manson and the family being framed by the police, in a deliberate attempt to blame hippy culture for atrocities and give the police more leeway in dealing with them. Obviously, the thinking went, a hippy commune couldn't have done something like this. This attitude changed pretty quickly, but quite a few in the hippy culture were rattled by how this was 'one of their own'. If anyone wants to learn more about Manson, this podcast series is really good - goes into a lot of depth. http://www.youmustrememberthispodcast.com/episodes/youmustrememberthispodcastblog/2015/5/26/charles-mansons-hollywood-part-1-what-we-talk-about-when-we-talk-about-the-manson-murders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted November 22, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted November 22, 2017 True - Rolling Stone were originally going to run with the headline "MANSON IS INNOCENT" when they put him on the cover, and it was a fairly last minute decision for Jann Wenner to change it to "The Most Dangerous Man In The World". Great points on how it killed hippy-dom, though, @Astro Hollywood, but I would still make a case for Altamont as having a hand in marking the end of it all, even if just symbolically. Perhaps that the Manson murders killed the scene from the outside, and Altamont from within, if that makes sense - Manson changed the rest of the world's perception of hippies, while Altamont made the scene itself recognise its naivety and unsustainability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members WWFChilli Posted November 22, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted November 22, 2017 Shame about David Cassidy. The Last Kiss is a bit of tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Kat Von D Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 6 hours ago, Chest Rockwell said: Uh. No. Your original point was that it was intentionally and explicitly planned. No-one is arguing that his actions didn't have a huge impact. May have gone off on a tangent a little bit, conspiracy theories have that effect on me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grecian Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Max Clifford has apparently died after a heart attack in prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pier Six Brawler Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBacon Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 27 minutes ago, Grecian said: Max Clifford has apparently died after a heart attack in prison. Death is the best type of PR. He is living the gimmick brother... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Surf Digby Posted December 10, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted December 10, 2017 The response to his passing seems to be almost exclusively "Good". Savile fucked kids and corpses, but he still got the odd "RIP" when he popped it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pier Six Brawler Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Clifford was in jail, convicted of his crimes at the time of his death. Savile had not been convicted of any crime, even though the rumours about him had been widespread for years, and it was a bad idea for the BBC to go overboard lauding him as they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted December 11, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted December 11, 2017 To steal a joke from elsewhere - he'll be spinning in his grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Chris B Posted December 11, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted December 11, 2017 18 hours ago, Pier Six Brawler said: Clifford was in jail, convicted of his crimes at the time of his death. Savile had not been convicted of any crime, even though the rumours about him had been widespread for years, and it was a bad idea for the BBC to go overboard lauding him as they did. Not just the BBC, to be fair. His body was carried through the crowded streets of Leeds in a golden coffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Gus Mears Posted December 11, 2017 Author Paid Members Share Posted December 11, 2017 Keith Chegwin has died at 60, which I am more sad about than for any celebrity death in at least a few months.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra_gordo Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Keith Chegwin has apparently died. Edit: Gus with the source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Gus Mears Posted December 11, 2017 Author Paid Members Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, cobra_gordo said: Keith Chegwin apparently. The lesser-known sequel to Love Actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra_gordo Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, Gus Mears said: The lesser-known sequel to Love Actually. Would have been a better film too. Just him, running around with his cock out in a jungle shouting "Wahey" at folk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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