Butch And D-Mal's James Bond Learning Tree Thread

[johnnyboy]

2 minutes ago, SuperBacon said:

The best one.

The Living Daylights isn't playing, but obviously I'm off to see Pierce tonight.  I reckon GoldenEye must have been the first Bond I'd seen in the cinema on release (twice!)

[JoeManco7]

57 minutes ago, SuperBacon said:

My favourite one. The best one.

And how much of that was influenced by something else?

[Wideload90]

1 hour ago, johnnyboy said:

Did you have to get the film or the song title?  Song title stumps a lot when they aren't the same name as the film, "All time high" I am looking at you, or even "Another way to die" for that matter - which was a cracker on Guitar Hero/Rock Band.

Good question - artist and title of the film. No love for Rita Coolidge that night I'm afraid...

[SuperBacon]

26 minutes ago, JoeManco7 said:

And how much of that was influenced by something else?

Definitely helped. I'd seen Bond films when I was younger with my Dad, but that was the first I'd seen at the cinema and was really aware of. I was in awe from the opening.

I do still think it's the best one.

[Jazzy G]

2 hours ago, johnnyboy said:

GoldenEye is in the cinema this weekend (at least some Cineworld).  For England.

Brosnan's best outing as Bond, but I reckon only because it was written with Dalton in mind. He fit into that better than Dalton did into the Roger Moore feeling Living Daylights. 

[Chili]

Still only ever seen A View to a Kill, and that was because I was too tired to move. I don't even dislike Bond, just never got round to it. Probably seen more knock offs and parodies of it.

[Harry Wiseau]

My eldest pointed out that the film Giant has both the Bond (Bronson) and a villain (Toby Stephens) from Die Another Day, we couldn't think of another instance of a Bond and villain from the same film being in another film together but surely it must have happened? There's films with a Bond and villains from a different Bond's films (Last Crusade for one) but surely Prince Naseem can't be the first person to bring a previous Bond and his nemesis back together?

[johnnyboy]

1 hour ago, Harry Wiseau said:

There's films with a Bond and villains from a different Bond's films (Last Crusade for one)

Same Bond and Cross Bond villainy in Last Crusade if you're willing to accept Never Say Never Again (personally I'm an Eon only man). As well as Julian Glover from a proper Bond, Sean Connery and Pat Roach are both in Never Say Never Again and Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade.  (Roach is more your henchman than the big bad, obvs.)

Edited January 17 by johnnyboy

[TheBurningRed]

I can only think of Bond and henchman from Glass Onion. Daniel Craig and Batista. 

[ReturnOfTheMack]

Pierce Brosnan and Sean Bean were in both Goldeneye and Percy Jackson & the Olympians: The Lightning Thief.

[Devon Malcolm]

I'm so sorry in advance. You know I have nothing better to do with my time.

Connery:-

* Sean Connery, Gert Frobe (Goldfinger) and Walter Gotell (From Russia With Love and later in the Bond / Dalton films) were in The Longest Day. Curd Jurgens (The Spy Who Loved Me) too although Jurgens went up against the Roger Moore Bond.

* Connery and Honor Blackman (Goldfinger) were in Shalako and you could technically make a case for her being a henchwoman.

* Connery and Christopher Walken were in The Anderson Tapes but like Jurgens, Walken was in a Moore Bond (A View to a Kill).

* Connery and Robert Shaw (From Russia With Love) were in Robin and Marian.

* Connery and Gotell were also in Cuba.

* Connery and Steven Berkoff were in Outland but, again, Berkoff was in a Moore Bond (Octopussy).

* Connery and Michael Lonsdale were in The Name of the Rose but Lonsdale was in Moonraker, a Moore Bond.

* Connery and Klaus-Maria Brandauer (Never Say Never Again) are in The Russia House.

Moore had only one I can think of:-

* Moore and Telly Savalas in Escape to Athena - Savalas appeared in On Her Majesty's Secret Service though.

Lazenby also only has one I can think of:-

* Lazenby and Adolfo Celi (Thunderball - a Connery Bond) in Who Saw Her Die?

Dalton:-

* Dalton and Charles Gray (two Connery Bonds - Diamonds Are Forever and You Only Live Twice) in Cromwell. Geoffrey Keen is also in that.

* Dalton and Max von Sydow (Never Say Never Again - Connery) in Flash Gordon.

* Dalton and Jonathan Pryce (Tomorrow Never Dies - Brosnan) in The Doctor and the Devils.

* Dalton and Steven Berkoff (Octopussy - Moore) in The Tourist.

Craig:-

* Craig and Michael Lonsdale (Moonraker - Moore) in Munich.

* Craig and Steven Berkoff (Octopussy - Moore) in The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo

Other notes:-

* Craig and Ben Whishaw were in The Trench, Enduring Love AND Layer Cake.

* Moore and David Hedison were in North Sea Hijack.

* Craig and Halle Berry were in Kings.

* Connery and Clifton James were in The Untouchables.

Edited January 17 by Devon Malcolm

[Devon Malcolm]

Forgot Brosnan!

* Brosnan and Julian Glover (For Your Eyes Only - Moore) in The Fourth Protocol.

* Brosnan and Sean Bean (Goldeneye) in Percy Jackson and the Olympians.

* Brosnan and Omid Djalili (The World is Not Enough) in Mamma Mia: Here We Go Again (I'm particularly proud of this one, leave me alone).

* Brosnan and Dave Bautista (Spectre - Craig) in Final Score.

* Brosnan and Jonanthan Pryce (Tomorrow Never Dies) in The Thursday Murder Club.

Also:-

* Brosnan and Carey Lowell were in Love Affair.

* Brosnan and Naomie Harris were in After the Sunset and Black Bag.

* Brosnan and Rosamund Pike were in A Long Way Down.

* Brosnan and Olga Kurylenko were in The November Man.

* Brosnan and Joe Don Baker were in Mars Attacks!

Edited January 17 by Devon Malcolm

[Jazzy G]

Roger Moore and Patrick McNee played Holmes and Watson in 1973's Sherlock Holmes in New York. 

Also Patrick McNee plays Invisible Jones in the Avengers movie in which Sean Connery was the bad guy. 

Edited January 17 by Jazzy G
Who the heck is Sean Conbery?

[The Gaffer]

After months of a running joke that I'd be happy to just watch GoldenEye for my birthday, me and my partner ended up watching roughly half the Bonds over Christmas. Discovering that she was along for the mission as much as me was a genuine joy because with a franchise like Bond as soon as you dust some off there's just so much ahead of you to relish going through for the first time or all over again. 

Some quick recollections: 

Thunderball - Was playing on a 24/7 Bond TV channel she had on her dodgy box so we fell into this one first. Plenty of fun, even though its primary gimmick of going underwater resulted - naturally - in the most plodding bits of the film à la Sonic The Hedgehog, Tomb Raider II and most of real life. 

You Only Live Twice - A low point. Connery's completely disengaged, disinterested performance threw up some laughs but generally the more sombre tone overexposed our least favourite of the classic Bond portrayals (I've not read through this thread again but I believe we're Getting Bong Wrong, here). The bit in the volcano seemed to drag on forever, though we did remark on how large a shadow it casts as sort of 'default Bond' in so many people's memories, which I think Austin Powers probably helped bridge into the 21st century. 

On Her Majesty's Secret Service - This film fucking rules. Lazenby's laconic performance suits the extended, afternoon stretch of sequences in and around Best Blofeld - Telly Savalas's mad phobia curing, hypno-soldier producing psychedelic research centre in the Swiss alps. The whole thing feels like a dream sequence, absolutely torn asunder by Lazenby's genuinely touching performance in the climactic scene where his wife is killed. 

The Man With The Golden Gun - Much more fun than I remember it being. It's one of the cornier ones, but Moore's still got plenty of credit in the bank and he's always on the move in it so it just breezes along. Watch out for his half arsed attempt at a respect courtesy during the martial arts sequence. 

The Spy Who Loved Me - They seemed to make all the right moves here, that just didn't resonate with either of us. A now-traditional intentional pivot to 'Let's make a proper Bond this time' but there's something rather dry about how it just confidently and calmly hits all of its marks. 

Moonraker - Pure shite.

The Living Daylights - A fine first outing for Dalton. I thought him and Maryam d'Abo had some genuinely good romantic chemistry which I apparently invested too much in, birthing 'the cello scale' of measuring successive Bond outings Bond/Bond girl chemistry. Top five Bond themes, as well, and offcuts of the tune/general 80s synth goodness is peppered throughout the rest of the film. I think this is held in higher regard than...

License to Kill - Fantastic! This was the biggest surprise of the Bond-a-thon. I was expecting the tonal shift to be a bit jarring but it's a riot. It's the cocaine 80s, end of history James Bond. Why do people say this is the grounded, grim, depressing one? There's shark drama, a fancy lizard, Benicio del Toro knowing he's better than all of this shit and somebody's head explodes. You really felt during the ending that they weren't sure where this was going to go next...

GoldenEye - Oh, please James, spare me the Freud. I might as well ask you if all the vodka martinis ever silenced the screams of all the men you've killed... or if you find forgiveness in the arms of all those willing women, for all the dead ones you failed to protect. We're saying thing now! It's the 90s! Communist Hagrid! Famke Janssen! Boris's tropical shirt! The greatest James Bond ever. 

Can't be arsed with anything after that.

[johnnyboy]

13 minutes ago, The Gaffer said:

You Only Live Twice - A low point....though we did remark on how large a shadow it casts as sort of 'default Bond' in so many people's memories, which I think Austin Powers probably helped bridge into the 21st century. 

It also paid homage to in one of the best episodes of The Simpsons.