Paid Members SpursRiot2012 Posted January 17, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted January 17, 2014 When did WWE stop using pyro at the beginning of Raw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Xtreme_lives Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 When did WWE stop using pyro at the beginning of Raw? Â I was thinking the same the other week as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 It was around October 2012 that it stopped on a regular basis, I think, but they have done it since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamp Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Where does the contentious term worker come from and what did it actually first mean. I presume there is a point where wrestlers became workers, and I'm also guessing it's surprisingly old. Was it always the case that better workers meant head bumps and other hipster stuff or did it used to refer to people who worked the crowd more and just mutate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted January 17, 2014 Moderators Share Posted January 17, 2014 I always assumed it was a carny term. Working the marks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamp Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Yeah, that would make the most sense, but then it seems strange that it mutated into what it means now. How did that come about? I guess the best workers were deemed the most realistic ones, which tended to mean the most athletic ones and then it became more of an 'effort ' thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awards Moderator HarmonicGenerator Posted January 17, 2014 Awards Moderator Share Posted January 17, 2014 I always assumed the mutation came from when people first started to grab hold of insider terminology - the beginning of smarkdom, as it were. People heard 'worker', in its definition as 'the best at working the crowd', as a word to describe a wrestler, and the two became interchangeable to the extent that the best workers were the best at the actual wrestling aspect, rather than the working itself. So a worker becomes a guy who does loads of moves, but who doesn't necessarily work the crowd, because certain elements of the fanbase consider 'worker' to be the clever way of saying 'wrestler'. Â But as I say, that's just what I've generally assumed. Lister or someone probably knows the correct answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Rock Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 When I worked for wZw I had it explained that work/worker is used instead of wrestling/wrestler because when your a professional wrestler, you are paid to wrestle, it's a job so therefor you are a worker. You don't say before the show starts your wrestling this guy tonight you say, you are working with this guy tonight because its a job you work together to accomplish a successful match. I also remembering reading (in a book about the history of the NWA) that the term worker originated in England and when British wrestlers started to move across to work in America the term was taken across there. I think this is right because in The Dynamite Kids book he used the word all the time when referring to a wrestler but iv not heard it in many books wrote by American wrestlers. Â Also iv heard it being used in the context that wrestling is a work used under the kayfabe terminology, I suppose when a bunch of workers/wrestlers were sitting in a bar or in a locker room with people their who weren't filled in, the term working would be used instead of wrestling. I think in general worker/work/working sounds better and more formal and official than wrestler/wrestling. Â I could be wrong but I have had it explained to me but babsically from what I remember its what I said before. Your a worker because your a professional you get paid and you work with your fellow worker to create a successful match. 2 workers, work together to create a successful match and work together to make sure your both protected and safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannibal Man Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Has the Savage/Steamboat match from Feb 15th 1987 in Toronto ever made it onto an official WWE DVD or tape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members JNLister Posted January 22, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted January 22, 2014 Not as far as I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannibal Man Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Ah bollocks. It bloody well should be! Cheers for checking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members JNLister Posted January 22, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted January 22, 2014 On the "worker" definition, I think it varies slightly depending on whether or not you are a wrestler (even though you are talking about the same meaning.) In the business it started off more as a way to distinguish a good pro performer from a legitimately skilled grappler or "shooter." From the fan perspective, it always seemed to develop more as a way to show you were talking about how good a performer somebody was, rather than how good they were in storyline such as whether they won or lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Xtreme_lives Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Who is the artist at Wrestling 101? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cutting Edge Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Watching ROH Joe vs Punk one, Les Thatcher before the match presents Joe with a new ROH title, I dont remember seeing it again, homicide was poking his head into the feud so did he do something to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members eugenespeed Posted January 23, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted January 23, 2014 I've got an official Eastern Championship Wrestling t-shirt, black with white writing and with "It's Not For Everyone" on the back. Â (I actually bought it from the Blue Meanie on eBay, but I don't have any proof, other than letting someone go through my ebay account and my previous purchases!) Â I've not worn it in years and I don't really collect wrestling stuff any more. Â Would it be worth anything or should I perhaps make a funky cushion out of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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