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34 minutes ago, David said:

 

Let's be honest, when he was offered the Crawford fight, was he ever going to turn down that opportunity? Of course not. he was nowhere near being a favourite, but that's the kind of fight you'd regret not taking when you've eventually hung up the gloves for good. It never went as he wanted, but there's still the Brook fight if he wants it.

Im sure he has regrets now though, in terms of how he could have come out of Saturday night reputation wise, it couldnt have gone much worse. Its a shame because Khan once again showed huge suds by getting through that 1st round. He was losing badly but Khan was having more success as it went on too, he was still losing but it isnt like he went into his shell, thats all forgotten because of the finish though. 

As for that finish, who knows? both Khan and Hunter both pointed the finger for each other for it ending. I think Khan saw it as a way out but was waiting on Hunter to make the call. Khan failing to respond to the referee's questions and looking to his corner leads me to believe that. Little has been made of Khan arm injury too, he clearly said after the 3rd or 4th round that his hand (might have been arm) was hurt and Hunter told him to ignore it. Khan played it down post-fight saying the adrenaline got him through but Hunter was well aware that Khan was injured before the nut shot so he may have saw it an out and maybe get the fight ruled a no-contest or potentially even a DQ?

I listened to the 5Live post fight podcast and on that Costello asked Khan what the ref had said to him in the ring, Khan said something along the lines of "ref said, im gonna stop it", Khan responded "no dont stop it", to which the ref replied "ok, you have 5 minutes", then no more than 30 seconds later Costello asked "why didnt you take the 5 minutes?" and Khan answered "i didnt know i had 5 minutes, if id known i would have taken them" he does say he wasn't thinking straight though so he may have been confused but i didnt see any clear instruction from anyone in that ring though like you do in an MMA fight that Khan was being told to take the time, it just look like they pulled him out as quick as they could, you can't blame people for questioning it 

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One thing I will say is that unless you've actually been cracked in the nuts with a decent level of force it's impossible to understand how your body reacts. I've been caught full-on with a knee as someone tried to pass my guard a few years back, and it was honestly the worst pain I've ever known. In the past I've dislocated my shoulder, two fingers, cracked my sternum from taking a knee to the chest, and tore two muscles in my back.

The groin shot had me in a level of pain where I literally couldn't stand or breathe, then I threw up when I managed to get back to the changing rooms.

So yeah, lesson to be learned here is that if you're ever in trouble in a pub or on the street, aim for the nuts. It'll take down any fella.

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I have no doubt he took hard shot to the nuts, the whole leg argument doesn't really wash because those protector things boxers where cover a large area so even if that thing is clipped it driving into the nuts. The problem is how they dealt with it, ive gone back and watched it and Khan does signal to Hunter that he wants to call it (which is something Khan denied post fight), he does so roughly 30-35 seconds after the punch lands. You can't knock anyone for calling him out on it really.

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11 minutes ago, Egg Shen said:

You can't knock anyone for calling him out on it really.

No, you can knock those who "call him out" on it. 

You can't knock those who were disappointed in how the fight finished, or who would have loved to see a definitive finish, but to "call out" someone on an injury that's not only incapacitating, but can also be pretty dangerous is fucking moronic.

Frustration I can understand, especially from the crowd in attendance at the time. But anyone who still questions Khan, or who calls him a quitter despite him pissing blood after the fight and obviously being in a lot of pain obviously aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer, are they? They're probably the type who attend local boxing shows and believe they could step up after a few Stella's. 

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Stuck record time. 

Its sport, not entertainment. You have no right to feel aggrieved at the way the fight ended. When you pay for a sporting contest you  know it could end many ways. 

There are a lot of people annoyed because they wanted it to end with Khan staring at the lights and didn’t get that. 

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yeh, theres that crowd, but there's also the crowd that would have preferred Khan to have been pulled out by his corner between rounds rather than using a low blow as a way out, then claim he was coming back in the fight.

I dont really fall into either camp but i was disappointed with what happened and a with a few of the inconsistencies ive heard on what went down post-fight.

Does anyone think the Khan/Brook fight still happens? its undeniably damaged but still sells over here. More than ever though i think neither man would want to lose to other which could be an issue. It could be sold as a proper redemption fight now if it happens though. Both guys recent years are pretty similar with what they have attempted and failed to achieve. It all weirdly makes sense.

 

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It’s basically down to Khan isn’t it. He did shake Brooks hand and tell him theyd definately get it on, then went and fought Crawford. But as Amir is a man of his word i imagine it’ll happen. Personally i’d rather see Brook v Liam Smith or Brook have a crack at Crawford. I’d like to see Khan hang up the gloves as he is a shot fighter and risks doing himself damage by continuing to fight.

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9 minutes ago, Egg Shen said:

Does anyone think the Khan/Brook fight still happens? its undeniably damaged but still sells over here. More than ever though i think neither man would want to lose to other which could be an issue. It could be sold as a proper redemption fight now if it happens though. Both guys recent years are pretty similar with what they have attempted and failed to achieve. It all weirdly makes sense.

Personally, while I don't think either guy is world title level anymore, we're hardly talking about two bums here, are we? 

Look at who both fighters have lost to in the past few years. Errol Spence Jnr, Golovkin, Terrence Crawford, and Canelo Alvarez. That's not a terrible list of losses, is it?

It's a fight that made sense before Khan was offered the Crawford fight, and it makes sense now. In fact, it'll be even better in the build-up because no doubt Brook will be giving it the "you quit!" schtick, while Khan will be doing the same to him. 

Plenty of needle, two fighters who are still only 32 and who've only really lost to the best.

In fact, the truth is that both of them are really only "domestic level" now because of the calibre of champions in their divisions. If this was five or six years ago it could have been very different. I've described Brook as a domestic level fighter for a while now, and that's mainly because his division at world level is too stacked for him to really compete with. Now Khan is at that same crossroads.

Get the fight made, and lets see a proper tear-up!

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27 minutes ago, David said:

I've described Brook as a domestic level fighter for a while now, and that's mainly because his division at world level is too stacked for him to really compete with. Now Khan is at that same crossroads.

Get the fight made, and lets see a proper tear-up!

i hear what you are saying but Brook still competes and beats many of the top level Welterweights for me. Its only the elite couple at the top which are the exception and those couple are a rare breed. If that makes him domestic level you have pretty high standards.

Kell Brook vs. Johnny Garton for the Londsale Belt, lets see it.

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I think Khan still competes with most of the top fighters in his division as well. He may not beat them, but he's competitive.

Maybe domestic level is the wrong way to describe it, but both fighters are pretty much shut out of the world title picture, so they can either look elsewhere or retire. A domestic fight against each other is the way to go, after that there's nowhere else for either to go really.

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i agree, i still think there's legs in it. Maybe not the stadium fight it might have been but they can sell it for what it is. 

Brook is saying he wants to pursue Crawford now though 😄 i still think either man can win a World Title if they take the right path, as long as they dont go after the belts Crawford and Spence holds they have a way in.

here's the video of that transcript i mentioned above too...

Lots today hinting at Andy Ruiz for AJ in June, including...

its not a terrible replacement, but for people who knows little about boxing, they'll shit all over this based off Ruiz' flabby physique alone.

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The WBSS have reached a deal with Matchroom and SKY to show the Taylor vs Baranchyk/Inoue vs Rodriguez bill in May. SKY are also airing the Donaire vs Tete/Prograis vs Relikh card that takes place this weekend.

Cracking news.

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1 hour ago, jimufctna24 said:

The WBSS have reached a deal with Matchroom and SKY to show the Taylor vs Baranchyk/Inoue vs Rodriguez bill in May. SKY are also airing the Donaire vs Tete/Prograis vs Relikh card that takes place this weekend.

Cracking news.

yeh thats cool, i thought the Taylor show might end up on Channel 5. Nice to see them getting some love though, cracking shows.

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May is stacked. As well as the card Jim mentioned you’ve got the Canelo vs Jacobs and Usyk vs Takam shows. 

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