Paid Members JNLister Posted March 19 Paid Members Share Posted March 19 Bloody hell, that's what you get for assuming. My new answer to this question is Papa Shango. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIDDUM_N_STYLE Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Bart Gunn has to be up here surely? Went from a high profile Tag Title match with Billy against Owen and Yokozuna at 11 to not making the card at all at 12 and 13 then appeared in the Tag Team Battle Royal that opened 14 (albeit in the failed New Midnight Express gimmick with Bob Holly) before getting knocked out in embarrassing fashion by Butterbean at 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted March 20 Paid Members Share Posted March 20 10 hours ago, RIDDUM_N_STYLE said: Bart Gunn has to be up here surely? Went from a high profile Tag Title match with Billy against Owen and Yokozuna at 11 to not making the card at all at 12 and 13 then appeared in the Tag Team Battle Royal that opened 14 (albeit in the failed New Midnight Express gimmick with Bob Holly) before getting knocked out in embarrassing fashion by Butterbean at 15 In isolation, that's not a big deal. The Smoking Gunns did not wrestle at Mania 12 because one half of The Smoking Gunns was out with a neck injury. Thereafter... eh. Hogan to little people is still the benchmark for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted March 24 Paid Members Share Posted March 24 I don't understand why Bundy wasn't a bigger deal. He was solid in the ring, had a great villain look, and was really quite good on the mike - his promo style was articulate, intelligent, but also menacing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Version1.0 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Kane and RVD must have been gutted to be on the pre-show at Mania 19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted March 24 Paid Members Share Posted March 24 (edited) 8 hours ago, Carbomb said: I don't understand why Bundy wasn't a bigger deal. He was solid in the ring, had a great villain look, and was really quite good on the mike - his promo style was articulate, intelligent, but also menacing. He was a big deal. He feuded with Andre before Hogan and kayfabe injured both. He was still with Andre (during the Heenan Family vs masked āMachinesā thing) between Mania 2 and 3 up until the Giant turned and post Mania 3 debacle he still was up there, working Hogan on two SNME and being on Andreās team at the first Survivor Series - it was only thereafter that he meandered for a bit and disappeared when his tenure hit the 3 year mark - which was about par for the course for āhey, hereās a big guy we can feed to Hoganā for most of the 80s and early 90s. They maybe might have done more with him on his return. I remember the hype quite well when WWF Magazine said a ā440lb behemothā was coming back specifically to target Bret (who was WWF champ) at the time and if the weight and āreturningā didnāt give away that it was him, the āmystery manā in silhouette definitely did. The Bret run ended up a non event restricted to a few matches on the pre-Survivor Series European tour by which time he was back on TV in the doomed Million $ Corporation - maybe plans changed as they often did, maybe the piece solely existed to promote to those buying tour tickets, or maybe they realised, as many of us thought at the time, a big bloke (young though heād been) whoād wrestled at Mania 1-3 pottering about felt a bit out of place when they were trying to push āThe New Generation.ā Incidentally one of the Andre vs Bundy matches was billed as āThe Colossal Jostle.ā Which is the most Vince thing ever, this side of ācahootsā and āstupendous.ā Edited March 24 by air_raid you was the generation that bought more shoes and you get what you deserve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarlettChad Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 I'd love to see a reverse of this thread, Like take Benoit for example, and Guerrero. Both were on nothing matches at 19, then main evented 20.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awards Moderator HarmonicGenerator Posted March 24 Awards Moderator Share Posted March 24 1 hour ago, TheScarlettChad said: I'd love to see a reverse of this thread, Like take Benoit for example, and Guerrero. Both were on nothing matches at 19, then main evented 20.Ā If weāre talking reverses, Bradshaw being in a nothing four way tag filler match at 20, followed by going into 21 as the longest reigning WWE Champion in years sticks out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted March 24 Paid Members Share Posted March 24 2 hours ago, air_raid said: He was a big deal. He feuded with Andre before Hogan and kayfabe injured both. He was still with Andre (during the Heenan Family vs masked āMachinesā thing) between Mania 2 and 3 up until the Giant turned and post Mania 3 debacle he still was up there, working Hogan on two SNME and being on Andreās team at the first Survivor Series - it was only thereafter that he meandered for a bit and disappeared when his tenure hit the 3 year mark - which was about par for the course for āhey, hereās a big guy we can feed to Hoganā for most of the 80s and early 90s. They maybe might have done more with him on his return. I remember the hype quite well when WWF Magazine said a ā440lb behemothā was coming back specifically to target Bret (who was WWF champ) at the time and if the weight and āreturningā didnāt give away that it was him, the āmystery manā in silhouette definitely did. The Bret run ended up a non event restricted to a few matches on the pre-Survivor Series European tour by which time he was back on TV in the doomed Million $ Corporation - maybe plans changed as they often did, maybe the piece solely existed to promote to those buying tour tickets, or maybe they realised, as many of us thought at the time, a big bloke (young though heād been) whoād wrestled at Mania 1-3 pottering about felt a bit out of place when they were trying to push āThe New Generation.ā Incidentally one of the Andre vs Bundy matches was billed as āThe Colossal Jostle.ā Which is the most Vince thing ever, this side of ācahootsā and āstupendous.ā Fair enough. It just feels like there's something missing in his "legend story", as it were, for somebody from the Rock & Wrestling era. I suppose I had to have been watching at the time to really get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted March 24 Paid Members Share Posted March 24 (edited) 36 minutes ago, HarmonicGenerator said: If weāre talking reverses, Bradshaw being in a nothing four way tag filler match at 20, followed by going into 21 as the longest reigning WWE Champion in years sticks out. Thatās got to be the winner, surely? Just as āone of the Acolytesā to WWE champion was such a ridiculously fast promotion, probably the worst ever, Iām not sure much thought needs going in to the question. Probably someone thinking Cena is a shout going from āopenerā to WWE Champion one year to the next. Oblivious to how heād been wrestling Lesnar, Taker and Kurt for most of the year prior to Mania XX and at the point heās pinning Big Show for the US title, it actually looks a big deal for that belt getting put on Cena whoās already carrying himself like an heir apparent. Soā¦ yeah, no. Edited March 24 by air_raid Nice packet of Crunchy Nut you've got here. Pretty expensive, as I recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Supremo Posted March 24 Paid Members Share Posted March 24 On the reverse front, Becky Lynch went from not even winning the pre-show Battle Royale at Wrestlemania 34, to winning the main event at Wrestlemania 35. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRooster Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Another on the reverse front - Miz, going from a tag match that lasted slightly over 3 minutes at Wrestlemania 26, to main eventing 27. Then, as mentioned earlier in the thread, he plummeted down the card the year following. Best of both worlds, as far as this thread is concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted March 24 Paid Members Share Posted March 24 3 hours ago, Supremo said: On the reverse front, Becky Lynch went from not even winning the pre-show Battle Royale at Wrestlemania 34, to winning the main event at Wrestlemania 35. The worst treatment there was for Sasha and Bayley, who the office decided wouldnāt get a proper falling out and Mania match because there āwasnāt timeā to build it up properly on Raw despite there being ample table-laying in both the Rumble and the Elimination Chamber, so both had to make do with a confrontation at the end of the battle royal, which was won byā¦ SmackDowns Naomi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted March 24 Paid Members Share Posted March 24 Not having kept an eye on things WWE, have to ask: wasn't Jinder Mahal quite quickly raised from a jobber to world champ? I know McIntyre had some time between 3MB and the main event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Franchettiās Jazzbox Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Jinder was runner up in the Andre battle royal at wm33 on the pre show, losing to Mojo after Gronk helped him, and by the next Mania he had won and lost the wwe title, competing and winning a 4 way for the US title at wm34 so a slight improvement on his mania spot but a bit of a comedown from the summer in between. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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