Tim Healys Chutney Spoon Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 On 5/11/2023 at 2:30 PM, Lion_of_the_Midlands said: For that to happen doesn't someone have to get a train to Euston or something. Bus to Birmingham now isn't it? Quote
Members SuperBacon Posted May 16, 2023 Members Posted May 16, 2023 26 minutes ago, Big'Olympic_Hero'Pete said: Bus to Birmingham now isn't it? Leave Matthew alone mate. Quote
Tim Healys Chutney Spoon Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 On 5/11/2023 at 1:36 PM, Hannibal Scorch said: The speaker of the house with a rare showing of his backbone She's our MP and she's awful! Another one of these 'parachuted in' jobs and she's rarely seen in the constituency and certainly has no care for residents issues. Just wish it wasn't such a safe Blue seat so someone could realistically oust her. Quote
Keith Houchen Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 Despite this being a very real story that needs reporting, I’ve already seen accusations that it’s Tory client journalism and is only there to try and make labour appear in a bad light. Quote
Butch2000 Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 Waiting for Professional Intellectual, and Professional Marty Jannetty, blue tick champ David Baddiel to wade in on this. Mr Racism hierarchy himself. Anti semitism is currently rife in the Labour Party, but never gets reported. Quote
David Posted May 19, 2023 Author Posted May 19, 2023 Just when the Tories though they were dead, the British left come sprinting in like the Warrior saving Hogan from Sid and Papa Shango! Quote
Loki Posted May 19, 2023 Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, David said: Just when the Tories though they were dead, the British left come sprinting in like the Warrior saving Hogan from Sid and Papa Shango! Forget the Tories David, we’ve got to concentrate on the real enemy of the Left…. the not-quite-as-Left, those bastards. Edited May 19, 2023 by Loki Quote
Keith Houchen Posted May 19, 2023 Posted May 19, 2023 People do have a strange perception of what “The left” is, don’t they. It’s canonically in line with “Everything I don’t like is woke” Quote
Loki Posted May 19, 2023 Posted May 19, 2023 Similar to “everything I don’t like is Tory” then, I imagine. ? Quote
Keith Houchen Posted May 19, 2023 Posted May 19, 2023 Well, when you are on the left, the things you don’t like do tend to be Tory principles and ideology, yes. That’s kind of what pushes you to the left, a dislike of inequality, exploitation, and social hierarchy. Labour may be on the left of the current Overton Window, but that is hardly positioned on the left. Ken Clarke and his ilk were on the left of the Conservative Party, but they were still on the right, just not as much as the others. Quote
David Posted May 19, 2023 Author Posted May 19, 2023 32 minutes ago, Keith Houchen said: People do have a strange perception of what “The left” is, don’t they. It’s canonically in line with “Everything I don’t like is woke” In regard to my prior comment, I made mention of "the left" as individuals positioned leftward of the Conservative Party, so to speak. Now, let me clarify, I am not an ardent admirer of Keir Starmer and the Labour Party, but one cannot help but observe a peculiar phenomenon unfolding. It appears that those who have dedicated a significant portion of recent years to critiquing Tory governance and fostering hopes of their downfall now find themselves tantalizingly close to witnessing that very occurrence. And yet, astonishingly enough, they have chosen this moment to redirect their scrutiny towards Labour, revealing their purported deficiencies. Is this not a curious turn of events? Quote
Keith Houchen Posted May 19, 2023 Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, David said: And yet, astonishingly enough, they have chosen this moment to redirect their scrutiny towards Labour, revealing their purported deficiencies. Is this not a curious turn of events? Who are “They” in this? (EDIT - apologies, you said who) Because the left have been highly critical of Labour since Starmer lied and broke all of his election pledges. If you mean the journalistic world, it’s no surprise is it? Being slightly less shit than the tories is not a reason to support Labour. Nor does it make you a Tory enabler. Edited May 19, 2023 by Keith Houchen Quote
Paid Members Hannibal Scorch Posted May 19, 2023 Paid Members Posted May 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Keith Houchen said: Being slightly less shit than the tories is not a reason to support Labour. Nor does it make you a Tory enabler. You can tell yourself that Quote
Keith Houchen Posted May 19, 2023 Posted May 19, 2023 Just now, Hannibal Scorch said: You can tell yourself that Hey Keith, Being slightly less shit than the tories is not a reason to support Labour. Nor does it make you a Tory enabler. Cheers chief. Quote
Moderators Chest Rockwell Posted May 19, 2023 Moderators Posted May 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, David said: Is this not a curious turn of events? Bullshit question, false premise. Quote
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