American pronunciation

[Keith Houchen]

I understand how all the tribal connotations and all that bollocks can be very grating, even to ardent fans. We leads to Us and Them etc. But yeah, no problem with we in sporting fandom. 

[gmoney]

Just now, jazzygeofferz said:

https://youtu.be/xN1WN0YMWZU

I was going to say in my last post, you also hear the complaint in shit comedy, particularly hack stand up. 

[Scott Malbranque]

3 hours ago, Monkee said:

Can you do one of these a day for me to listen to before bed?

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For you Monkee, I'd sing you the score from the HMS Pinifore followed by a rendition of "Il Cielo in una Stanza" before bed every night. 

[Chest Rockwell]

10 minutes ago, gmoney said:

I don't see why not. I only ever see this complaint from non-sports fans who like to imagine the people saying it think they're somehow as good as the players, when it's absolutely not the case. I'm not talking full kit wankers, but if you're a member club, contribute to it financially and volunteer for it (which does happen a lot in the lower leagues), why aren't you part of it?   

I can see it when it's a smaller club and you're taking part in fundraising, renting a coach etc. and there's a genuine community around the club but it's a bit of a fucking stretch if you've just bought the occasional ticket for a home game for a premiership club.

[gmoney]

Just now, Chest Rockwell said:

I can see it when it's a smaller club and you're taking part in fundraising, renting a coach etc. and there's a genuine community around the club but it's a bit of a fucking stretch if you've just bought the occasional ticket for a home game.

True, but that's where the language comes from anyway. 

[SuperBacon]

4 minutes ago, Scott Malbranque said:

I'd sing you the score from the HMS Pinifore

You're going to send her to heaven before you send her to hell? And a 1 and a 2...

 

[Monkee]

1 hour ago, Scott Malbranque said:

For you Monkee, I'd sing you the score from the HMS Pinifore followed by a rendition of "Il Cielo in una Stanza" before bed every night. 

I’m actually blushing.

[Jazzy G]

1 hour ago, SuperBacon said:

You're going to send her to heaven before you send her to hell? And a 1 and a 2...

 

Bake him away, toys...

[Chest Rockwell]

2 hours ago, gmoney said:

True, but that's where the language comes from anyway. 

Yeah, that's a fair point, particularly in the context of this as a language thread. And it occurs to me that the kind of person who will use it in a dickhead way will almost certainly be a dickhead for other reasons anyway.

[air_raid]

Yeah, as someone that’s paid a yearly membership to my club for many years, supported them with my cash for matches, the shirts etc and received things in return - mass printed as they are, the birthday card always makes me smile - and have had the club be part of my entire life and personality for decades, I’m going to use “we.” I feel as much part of the football club as it’s part of me - Premier League or otherwise.

13 hours ago, Chest Rockwell said:And it occurs to me that the kind of person who will use it in a dickhead way will almost certainly be a dickhead for other reasons anyway.

This is true. I’ve had friends that support the other lot and never fell out with any of them over it, even had them round my place for the derby. I think there’s something powerfully weird about grown adults getting heated with total strangers about which team they follow, and the ones that actually become violent about it clearly have something very wrong with them.