Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted October 7 Paid Members Share Posted October 7 (edited) Bump machine as well. He was one of those wrestlers like RVD who seemed to be made of elastic and could make things look absolutely devastating. They really should’ve given him a proper run as Mortis. It was never gonna be a main event thing but certainly would’ve been better than the shit they had him doing, when they actually bothered using him. Why’s he purple though? Edited October 7 by wandshogun09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davertfnewman Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Not being facetious, but maybe the purple was a way of hinting he was part of the LGBTQ community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Statto Posted October 7 Paid Members Share Posted October 7 So much great stuff in that Mortis video, but extra props for the ref at 10:40ish doing silly dark match shit to (presumably) pop the other refs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted October 9 Paid Members Share Posted October 9 Now we're talking. I think people forget just how well played this (stupid) gimmick was when he was a heel and it only became shit when he turned babyface. The attack on Crush is still vicious stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reverend Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 The WWE Vault on Youtube is indeed a thing of beauty - some really nice footage has been uploaded, including this gem which I haven't seen mentioned on here as yet: It will be intetesting to see how much of the vintage stuff ends up on Netflix, or whether they'll just do these smaller and random videos on Youtube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dart Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 (edited) It seems to have been confirmed that at least some of the vintage stuff will be on Netflix. Certainly documentaries etc. (If you search on Netflix for WWE it brings up Raw, Smackdown and NXT but also brings up searches related to several of the documentaries, though not the documentaries themselves, but they've obviously been put into the system) I'd imagine the archive of PPVs, Raw, Smackdown and NXT will be on there, but who knows if every episode of WCCW is going to be on there, for example. It did all end up on Peacock eventually though. If they're not going to continue adding classic content though, it does seem kind of pointless keeping the stuff that's there already. Edited October 10 by The Dart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted October 11 Paid Members Share Posted October 11 On 10/9/2024 at 11:51 PM, Devon Malcolm said: Now we're talking. Watched this. Its brilliant. I feel like I've seen it before, not sure if it was on the Network a while ago. Reminds everyone that Ray Rougeau was an all-time terrible interviewer. Mean Gene, he ain't. On 10/9/2024 at 11:51 PM, Devon Malcolm said: I think people forget just how well played this (stupid) gimmick was when he was a heel and it only became shit when he turned babyface. The attack on Crush is still vicious stuff. The gimmick has always been appreciated on here. It really is fantastic. Bourne's mannerisms, his change of expression, the make-up, the music and the selling, particularly from Bobby Heenan, are superb. The build up to that Crush angle, from him just being a crowd member they claim not to know, to the tricks on Jannetty and the Bossman and then the subtlety of the first Crush run in ia all great stuff. I love his work too. Again, Heenan excels selling him as a proper wrestler. His novel pins and the "stump puller" submission are so much fun, as they should be. I loved him all the way to his involvement in the Bret angle at SummerSlam. Honestly, the Crush angle and the match and angle at Mania are a big part of the reason why I'm in the top 0.001% of people who love Mania 9. The gimmick was destined to struggle after he turned babyface but without Bourne, it's just a bag of shit. He's a massive part of it's success. Bleeding Skinner and whoever Ray Apollo is were just jabroni's in a costume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted October 11 Paid Members Share Posted October 11 Vince obviously wasn't the first one to recycle gimmicks in that way, but I wonder if his (relative) success in just having a run of different blokes portray Doink was part of what convinced him that "people care about the characters, not the wrestlers who play them" and led to Fake Diesel and Razor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted October 11 Paid Members Share Posted October 11 2 hours ago, tiger_rick said: Again, Heenan excels selling him as a proper wrestler. His novel pins and the "stump puller" submission are so much fun, as they should be. I watched Doink’s debut match before and pissed myself at Heenan on commentary going “these aren’t your typical clown moves”. As if there are wrestling moves that are synonymous specifically with clowns. It was a throwaway line but it was just the right balance between Heenan being surprised and impressed with Doink’s wrestling ability and putting that over to the viewer, but also being a bit goofy in a way only ‘The Brain’ could. Heel Doink was class. Although I wonder if the character was just a bit too dark for the still cartoony world of 1993 WWF and maybe that’s partly why they decided to chop the bollocks off it, turn him babyface, stick him with Dink etc. I mean, just look at this sick freak… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted October 11 Paid Members Share Posted October 11 The short hair version of Doink is wild. I forget every time until I see these early matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted October 11 Paid Members Share Posted October 11 What were they playing at with the little fangs as well? I remember seeing this photo as a kid but later thought I must’ve imagined or misremembered the teeth because I never saw it anywhere else. Way scarier than your Undertakers and Papa Shangos. Bloody terrifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gaffer Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 At the risk of turning this into a WWE Vault thread, they've uploaded my favourite match ever today: There's just something so special about almost-but-not-quite-peaked-yet Hardyz & Edge & Christian going in with zero hype or expectation to a B-Show and delivering something where halfway through the match the crowd slowly start realising "Oh fuck, this is important somehow!" The first few TLCs are I guess objectively better in so many other ways, but this is the one for me. High spots without being too over the top, no pre-gimmicked ladders, doesn't have half a dozen guys peering over the apron waiting for their cue to stop being dead. Just a belter of a brawl that made four guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted October 18 Paid Members Share Posted October 18 18 hours ago, The Gaffer said: There's just something so special about almost-but-not-quite-peaked-yet Hardyz & Edge & Christian going in with zero hype or expectation to a B-Show and delivering something where halfway through the match the crowd slowly start realising "Oh fuck, this is important somehow!" The first few TLCs are I guess objectively better in so many other ways, but this is the one for me. High spots without being too over the top, no pre-gimmicked ladders, doesn't have half a dozen guys peering over the apron waiting for their cue to stop being dead. Just a belter of a brawl that made four guys. Absolutely right. I'm not someone desperately craving good matches now, after seeing millions of them, but back when 1999 was delivering less quality action than a Chyna bluey, this blew my tiny mind watching it before work one morning. An incredible match and a real breakout performance. The first TLC was equally important and unique but I'd agree that this is better than almost all other ladder matches because it's not horribly choreographed. Brilliant stuff. Will have to watch this again soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted October 18 Paid Members Share Posted October 18 Another belter from that WWE Vault channel. Pains me how much good stuff there is on there. Firstly, it's absolutely tragic that 2/3 guys have passed away. I did get an overwhelming sadness watching this. Those Wyatt vignettes are magic. Easily in the top 5 vignettes the company have done. Dibiase, Razor and Mr Perfect's are all-timers for me too but there are close behind. I can't believe how much the horrible camera work ruins any beatdowns or backstage fights. Just constant moving, zooming and shaking of the camera on every punch, kick and move. I didn't realise it was that atrocious that early. An absolute skidmark on the company's on-screen product. First time I've ever seen that inferno match with Kane. Didn't realise Kane just had Wyatt beat and his mates saved him. What a star that made him look. The Wyatts were great regardless. Harper is the most brilliant character. Just a dirty, psycho looking motherfucker. Looks like he'd kill you as look at you. Bray pissing charisma. Rowan just looking like a massive guy they've sprung from a prison somewhere. Great stuff. I fell asleep before it all went downhill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted October 20 Paid Members Share Posted October 20 Huge battle royal from 2011. Fun stuff, if you can stomach the number of times they say "largest battle royal in WWE history". The first man eliminated will give you a chuckle. Interesting insight into the longevity of current talent and lack of turnover. If this had been 1994, I reckon the only guy employed who could have been in a 1981 battle royal was Bob Backlund, and he was out of the company for 9 of those years. If it had been in 2004, Undertaker, HBK and Flair could have been in a 1991 match, and again, Flair was out of the company for 9 years. In this match you have Randy Orton, Sheamus, Jey Uso, Jimmy Uso, Kofi Kingston, Miz, R-Truth, Cody Rhodes, CM Punk and Drew McIntyre. The first 7 have been employed for all those 13 years too, I think! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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