Guest Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 He also called Putin beforehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Gus Mears Posted August 3, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) Possibly. Although that's from the Chairman of the Democratic Coalition, who are basically an anti-Trump pressure group. It also hasn't been corroborated by any journalist of worth. Edited August 3, 2017 by Gus Mears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted August 3, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted August 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Gus Mears said: Possibly. Although that's from the Chairman of the Democratic Coalition, who are basically an anti-Trump pressure group. It also hasn't been corroborated by any journalist of worth. I'd hazard a guess that this is a deliberate move; in this era of fake news and "alternative facts", I wouldn't be surprised if US politics has moved into some sort of unsavouriness, where both sides are now using lies and obfuscation as a legitimate tactic, knowing that there will always be people out there who will believe what's said even after de-bunking, and especially as it seems nobody who "reports" these things is facing any consequences for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Gus Mears Posted August 3, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Carbomb said: I'd hazard a guess that this is a deliberate move; in this era of fake news and "alternative facts", I wouldn't be surprised if US politics has moved into some sort of unsavouriness, where both sides are now using lies and obfuscation as a legitimate tactic, knowing that there will always be people out there who will believe what's said even after de-bunking, and especially as it seems nobody who "reports" these things is facing any consequences for it. I read an interesting academic article recently on part of that ( which is here if you want:Â https://web.stanford.edu/~gentzkow/research/fakenews.pdf)Â You're basically correct in that both sides now clearly harness it (not necessarily willingly) with Republicans being more susceptible to it (less able/willing to recognise what is real and what isn't). There was another piece (which I now can't find for the life of me), looking into the relevant size and dissemination of fake news during the Presidential election period, finding that there was a lot more pro-Trump than pro-Clinton fake news (I want to say it was something like 70/30, but don't quote me on that). It's hardly contained on that side of the Atlantic in fairness, the utter shite of the type being pumped out by websites like Swarkbox and Breitbart UK is increasingly endemic. There will be a lot of academic research going on as we speak into how it influenced the General Election (if at all)Â and the manner in which it is compatible to what has happened in the States. Edited August 3, 2017 by Gus Mears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members SpursRiot2012 Posted August 13, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted August 13, 2017 Seven months into Donald Trump's presidency and we've got a dead anti-fascist protestor. The pictures coming out of Virginia are fucking unreal. And the people on the right that are bending over backwards to defend this stuff are fucking disgusting. What's also disgusting was Trump's statement condemning violence on all sides. It's the same kind of thing that Corbyn does, and gets pelters from the right for. Not explicitly condemning a specific. No, he leave it to his press secretary to go out and say OF COURSE Trump meant white nationalists. Well, why didn't he say that, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Trump showed more anger and condemnation towards Snoop Dogg than he does actual nazis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 He knows who put him where he is, and they're the only ones who'll try and keep him there, so the orange face with a yellow belly daren't risk upsetting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 I read a really interesting article on the Trump campaign and who funded it recently. It's a long read but worth it. http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/27/the-reclusive-hedge-fund-tycoon-behind-the-trump-presidency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 If there was ANY doubt lingering about the kind of values Farage and his UKIP mates stood for: Â Â He's backing up Trump regarding statues honouring racist Confederate losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Steve Bannon is gone, this is absolutely a clusterfuck of an administration. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Of Swing Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) Great news. I've always been more worried about the people surrounding Trump, than Trump himself. Edit. Of course the sooner Trump himself is gone the better. Edited August 18, 2017 by The King Of Swing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Rob Lowe Posted August 18, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted August 18, 2017 I was reading about some of Bannon's theories this morning. He seemed to be looking forward to a League of shadows style disaster/war to destroy everything and enable them to rebuild from there. An absolute nutter. Its truly frightening how well he did for a right wing blogger shithead. If Trump hadn't bungled the Charlottesville statement he'd still be there. As Johnnyboy mentioned, one less fall guy to blame. Hopefully this is the beginning of the end. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merzbow Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Is there any chance Linda McMahon is bumped up to a higher position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members SpursRiot2012 Posted August 18, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted August 18, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted August 18, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted August 18, 2017 There's only "Fiddy" Pence left now. That said, I really, really hope he's next and doesn't hold on - he would genuinely be worse than Trump, partly because he actually believes the shit he's peddling, whereas Trump only seems to say horrendous shit from a twisted sense of pragmatism, to either get a reaction or to strengthen his relationship with his voter base. Pence is the utterly horrifying Real Deal, and I dread to think what kind of world we'll end up with where an utter cunt like him is running the most powerful nation on the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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