Paid Members tiger_rick Posted December 11, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted December 11, 2015 For me, it isn't. I think of the end of the attitude era as being the period in late 1999 when Vince Russo fucked off and Steve Austin got run over. From there the WWF became a different animal. The matches were miles better, the amount of dross in the mid-card, both in and out of the ring, was heavily reduced and the ability of the talent shone through. Everything felt less desperate and more polished. They never really returned to the vulgarity and desperation of the attitude era save for that short spell in late 2002 when Triple H had destroyed the Raw roster and they had no ideas other than to try and sex stuff up. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted December 11, 2015 Moderators Share Posted December 11, 2015 The attitude era ended when the women's knickers went from thongs to French knickers. So around 2002. Less sexy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted December 11, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted December 11, 2015 The attitude era ended when the women's knickers went from thongs to French knickers. So around 2002. Less sexy. Pretty much this. When you had to buy the Divas DVDs if you wanted to get your cheap thrills, instead of putting Raw on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrasslin Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 For me the Attitude Era lived and died with Stone Cold. Could argue it started with the Hitman stuff and almost certainly ended with the handshake with McMahon at Wrestlemania 17. The Rock of course picking up the mantle during his time off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrasslin Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 DOUBLE POST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members FLips Posted December 11, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted December 11, 2015 Got to agree with Wrasslin, everything from the purchase of WCW/end of X-Seven onwards is different to pre 'mania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Showtime Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I've always went with it as the Attitude era ending when the Invasion ended, so the end of 2001. 2002 with the draft, name change and "Ruthless Aggression" moved on to a new feel. Although I wouldn't argue with anyone who said Attitude ended before the Invasion. That period was just a mad phase all to itself I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Your Fight Site Posted December 11, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted December 11, 2015 I’ve seen people say WrestleMania X-Seven is the end of the Attitude era, but I don’t seem to be alone in feeling it ended in late–1999/early-2000. 2000–2002 is a weird, “in-between” era but a bloody good time with the talent they had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted December 11, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted December 11, 2015 Into 2000 the Kat was still getting her tits exposed on TV, they banged on about Chyna being naked in Playboy throughout the autumn and in the build up to Mania 17 Vince had Trish strip down to her underwear and bark like a dog for his entertainment. I'm more than happy with Survivors 97 and WrestleMania 17 as the bookends of "Attitude." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted December 11, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted December 11, 2015 Late 2000 is when Stephanie was hired as head of creative and they sacked everyone who was smarter than her to make her look the clever one in the room. I'd say that's probably when the decline started. Its why they'll never recover creatively. In 2000 from top to bottom it seemed like everything was amazing. From the headliners to the uppercard to the midcard to the opener to the people who lost everyweek to the announcers. Everything was great. Now Vince has final say and the creative team writes television Vince would like, not the audience. And then Vince ends up not liking it, so everyone is pissed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members garynysmon Posted December 11, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted December 11, 2015 early-2000. 2000–2002 is a weird, “in-between” era but a bloody good time with the talent they had. Didn't they try selling that as "The Ruthless Aggresion" era? Despite so many people loving 2000 as a year, I have fonder memories of 97/98/99 personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted December 11, 2015 Author Paid Members Share Posted December 11, 2015 early-2000. 2000–2002 is a weird, “in-between” era but a bloody good time with the talent they had. Didn't they try selling that as "The Ruthless Aggresion" era? Despite so many people loving 2000 as a year, I have fonder memories of 97/98/99 personally. Ruthless aggression was mid 2002 onwards. 1997 had a brilliant stuff going on at the top of the WWF but the midcard was full of shite. 1998 wasn't great after Austin won the title. Good matches with Foley but thatAustin/McMahon angle was keeping them afloat but the challengers to Austin were shit. 2000 was much more well rounded from top to bottom. Even the light heavyweight title had a feud worth watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Clint Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 1997 had a brilliant stuff going on at the top of the WWF but the midcard was full of shite. That's because there was too much DOA V Los Boricuas filling the gaps on Raw every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members WWFChilli Posted December 11, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted December 11, 2015 Chris Kreski, the most under appreciated man of modern WWF. If he got half the mentions for his talents that Russo gets for his shiteness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted December 11, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted December 11, 2015 Chris Kreski, the most under appreciated man of modern WWF. If he got half the mentions for his talents that Russo gets for his shiteness. Was rather shocked when he died. He was pretty young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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