d-d-d-dAz Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 By the way, if Batista continues with the daft Gracie shorts/pebble dashed trainers outfit then he can fuck off again. He looked a right wally. Â He ran out like he was getting changed, was in just his briefs, someone nicked his wallet and he just had to chuck a teenagers trainers on to chase after them. Â Poor form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Psygnosis Posted January 27, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted January 27, 2014 Can't help but feel WWE got that incredibly wrong tonight, Batista for me should have came back as a heel which is the way he left, I'd have had Roman Reigns (huge fan of his lately) win it and then do the whole Shield break up thing, but its obvious the 'WWE Universe' are looking for new stars. Â On a side note, poor Rey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted January 27, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted January 27, 2014 Live crowd reactions mean very little anyway, so that doesn't matter to them. If it did, Cena would have been a heel and Fandango would have had the belt by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members I Bent My Wookie Posted January 27, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted January 27, 2014 I can't see the crowd not shitting over everything Randy and Batista do. Orton's been getting boring chants since last WrestleMania at least (the night after the crowd cheered and thanked a heel Big Show for coming out and KO'ing him and Sheamus) whereas Batista will be lucky to go a 15 minute match as the main event of the show without blowing up or tearing something. Â It's going to be a Randy Orton pause hold match with Batista breaking out at the end hitting essentially his 5 moves of doom and winning the title to a scene of empty chairs as people have already left to avoid traffic. Â In JBL news, I wish they'd put him in a tear away suit at least, and that he clotheslined somebody. At least make it worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-d-d-dAz Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 The thing is, people are viewing this as if the people in the audience are representative of the whole fan base. Â Whether they're right or wrong, it doesn't matter, they're not. Â Millions of people tuned into see Batista's segment, those same millions of people aren't that arsed about Bryan. Unfortunately, there's a serious chasm that now exists between your bread-and-butter family audience who contribute the bulk of your ratings, and spend the odd quid on a real stars merch, and those people that spend serious cash on live tickets. Â It's a toxic blend, right now. Â WWE can't afford to lose the casual audience, because once you lose what little in-roads you have into real people's lives you become about as successful as TNA. Â Unfortunately for WWE, whilst they're trying to reach out to Joe and Janet Bloggs sitting at home in their Batista and Cena clobber, the travelling circus has become permanently filled with the sort of bloody-minded wally brain that used to poison the Impact zone. Â I genuinely don't know what the solution is. At this rate they could spike a massive number for Mania, and still have the live crowd staging a mutiny. It's a bit mental really. Â Ian's right that it probably doesn't matter to them in the short term, but if it continues it will. It affects the perception of the characters on display. It was a toxic atmosphere in that arena and there's no way the audience at home can miss that. And, I'd imagine it'd be quite grating to try and watch a show with 15,000 loud mouths implicitly telling you that what you like is shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Dammer Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Batista vs Orton wont be the problem, it wont be going on last anyway and they can always wheel out Naitch to keep the crowd on side. The problem they have is that people want a blow off for Daniel Bryans story and not just him beating Corporate Kane or Sheamus in a standard singles match in the middle of the card. Its not just a little want either, its universally wanted and everything else is being shat on if its taking precedence over it. Two guys got booed to high heaven tonight when they should be two of the biggest faces in the company, an entire title match had the same treatment and numerous segments and matches have had it in recent weeks/months on Raw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted January 27, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted January 27, 2014 People crying because their favourite didn't win is the exact response they want. Those fans screaming for Fandango and booing John Cena aren't the ones putting money in the till for those green wrist bands. Its just a big smart arse town who tried their best to get themselves over in the two main matches. Its a shame really. The way they didn't give the WWE title match a chance and then began shitting themselves at the near falls summed them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Dammer Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 People crying because their favourite didn't win is the exact response they want. Â Thats not really what happened though was it? The reaction is coming from the fact that their favourite was brushed aside on the show. It was completely right to put Wyatt over, he looked strong as fuck beating Bryan clean and it sets up a great feud with Cena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digforvictory Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 People crying because their favourite didn't win is the exact response they want. Â Thats not really what happened though was it? The reaction is coming from the fact that their favourite was brushed aside on the show. It was completely right to put Wyatt over, he looked strong as fuck beating Bryan clean and it sets up a great feud with Cena. Â Agreed. Â And when it came down to the final two the crowd were all behind Reigns. They wanted Bryan to win but if not that then anyone but Batista. They were within their rights to shit all over Batista winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted January 27, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted January 27, 2014 Thats not really what happened though was it? The reaction is coming from the fact that their favourite was brushed aside on the show. They have made an investment in Batista, they have a long term plan for WrestleMania and they aren't going to change all that and rearrange the chess pieces just because a bunch of loud mouths aren't happy Bryan didn't win the Royal Rumble. Some people might actually want to see Orton vs Batista. This crowd didn't want to see Cena tonight either, but obviously some people must do. Â They've already fucked Bryan up. Months of terrible finishes and onscreen burials have done Bryan in. It would take much more than a Royal Rumble win and a title match with Orton to dig him out of the funk he's been in since last year. If you want to complain, complain about Battleground, Night Of Champions and Hell in the Cell. A returning name winning the Royal Rumble isn't something worth complaining about. Because its probably a better bet than Bryan right now. Pops aren't heat and aren't the measure of drawing money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWEisJericho Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Set up for a big 6 man at mania there then? Wyatt family v Bryan Cena & a mystery 3rd partner? Brother!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members I Bent My Wookie Posted January 27, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted January 27, 2014 Ian, do you personally want to see Orton vs Batista? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Benno Posted January 27, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted January 27, 2014 Batista looked shite didn't he. Â If it continues, they should turn Dave, make him the new Authority golden boy and somehow do him vs Bryan. Â They probably won't/can't change course now though. Orton vs shite trunks Batista is going to be Lesnar/Goldberg levels of glorious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted January 27, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted January 27, 2014 Ian, do you personally want to see Orton vs Batista? Fuck no. Didn't even want to see Batista win the Rumble after he turned up looking like a shriveled up bellend. But the crowd totally shit on everything tonight. They didn't even give the WWE title match a chance. I'm just saying the crowd tonight isn't an indication of what the buying public want to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin' Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 They have made an investment in Batista, they have a long term plan for WrestleMania and they aren't going to change all that and rearrange the chess pieces just because a bunch of loud mouths aren't happy Bryan didn't win the Royal Rumble. Some people might actually want to see Orton vs Batista. This crowd didn't want to see Cena tonight either, but obviously some people must do. Must they? Why? Because the WWE continue to push it down the fans throats? Whether Bryan headlines WrestleMania or Batista does, it won't make a single bit of difference to the buyrate. WrestleMania is a show which sells itself and would do even without the big names on it, but if people are tuning in to see anyone, it'll be Lesnar, Taker and special attractions like that. People won't be tuning in to see Batista, who has never even proven himself to be any sort of draw at all. Anyone who thinks that the Mania buyrate would be noticeably smaller if Orton defended against Bryan is deluded. It won't make an ounce of difference. Â Â They've already fucked Bryan up. Months of terrible finishes and onscreen burials have done Bryan in. It would take much more than a Royal Rumble win and a title match with Orton to dig him out of the funk he's been in since last year. If you want to complain, complain about Battleground, Night Of Champions and Hell in the Cell. A returning name winning the Royal Rumble isn't something worth complaining about. Because its probably a better bet than Bryan right now. Pops aren't heat and aren't the measure of drawing money. Yeah, tonights reaction was definitely proof that they've "done Bryan in". He's never been more over than he currently is so regardless of what you think about the booking, to suggest that they've ruined Bryan is obviously not true. The way they've booked him has undoubtedly been poor but he's still the most over wrestler on the roster, more popular today than at any point since the loss at Mania to Sheamus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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