CAREBEAR LUVVA Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Do we know if Big E is still part of this New Day thing? He wrestled on Superstars in his usual gear, which doesn't seem like the sort of thing they'd have him doing if he was supposed to be getting repackaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Big E's still knocking about with them on live events on the tour, so yeah, I'd expect he'll get his vignette next week -- and thus there was no harm in him being on a C show this week. Â However A New Day ends up playing out, it should be better than a crap Nation rehash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted November 13, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted November 13, 2014 I think the point in not making them an NoD rip off is that none of them have even an ounce of charisma that The Rock had, so there would be little chance of it being pulled off well. Plus you can't really take "you've been holding the black man down" seriously when one of them is a multiple time Intercontinental, United States and Tag Team Champion.  There was a version of the Nation long before the Rock. And charisma was not one of their better known qualities.   Big E's still knocking about with them on live events on the tour, so yeah, I'd expect he'll get his vignette next week -- and thus there was no harm in him being on a C show this week. However A New Day ends up playing out, it should be better than a crap Nation rehash. I've no idea if this will be any good but have to give them credit for trying something different and fresh. Would have been too easy to pull the race stuff. And they'd have got slaughtered for the unoriginality of it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Why does Harper need a family? Â Has he been thrown out of Wyatt's? Â I'm with Hyatte, seems odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 The Wyatt Family disbanded weeks ago. Harper's a nutter looking for opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil is brill Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014  I think the point in not making them an NoD rip off is that none of them have even an ounce of charisma that The Rock had, so there would be little chance of it being pulled off well. Plus you can't really take "you've been holding the black man down" seriously when one of them is a multiple time Intercontinental, United States and Tag Team Champion.  There was a version of the Nation long before the Rock. And charisma was not one of their better known qualities.  I know that, but Dem Wans constantly pining for the Attitude era will undoubtedly compare it to The Rock's NoD. Which is why I think WWE didn't go down the militant black guys route, I'd imgaine Trips, Vince and Co. are fed up of hearing "plz bring bak da attitude era." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Of Swing Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Wasn't the new NoD idea dropped because of racial tensions after a shooting or was that just internet rumors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sichadelic Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Why is the Nation considered as a "Black" or "Racist" stable? The only resemblance is that Faarooq dressed like a black panther at the time. Was it an afircan american movement when Owen Hart was in it? Or Savio, PG13 Or Crush?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted November 13, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted November 13, 2014 Why is the Nation considered as a "Black" or "Racist" stable? The only resemblance is that Faarooq dressed like a black panther at the time. Was it an afircan american movement when Owen Hart was in it? Or Savio, PG13 Or Crush?? The Malcolm X hand signal was a sign of black supremacy. Faarooq cut promos accusing the WWF and Vince McMahon of being racist. There was no real ambiguity. The race element did get watered down the longer it went on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil is brill Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) Why is the Nation considered as a "Black" or "Racist" stable? The only resemblance is that Faarooq dressed like a black panther at the time.  Well, at that time they were based on the Nation of Islam, with their headgear and adoption of Muslim names.  Also, when Faarooq booted Crush out, he said he was forming a "Bigger, Badder, Better and Blacker" Nation.  Faarooq went on to say that Ahmed Johnson wasn't black enough when he was kicked out of the Nation due to injuries. It was definitely a stable based around race, for a short while at least. Edited November 13, 2014 by neil is brill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sichadelic Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Good points... Â Be interesting if they do it, whether Mark Henry would join up. That would be a head tip to the original group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snitsky's back acne Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 WWE is not going to put a stable on TV that claims racial discrimination any time soon given Alberto Del Rio's recent statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merzbow Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) The best part of the NoD was seeing so many nerdy white guys raising their fists in the air, I caught it again recently when watching The Rocks monday night war episode and had to laugh. Â (I'd so do the same tbf..) Edited November 13, 2014 by Merzbow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew "the ref" coyne Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Yes they did have white members like Owen Hart, but when they did you may as well of called them "Token". Also the fact their main fued was vs a Mexican street gang and a American biker club did not help matters. Â Don't get me wrong, I really like the Nation. But the whole thing was steeped in race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members quote the raven Posted November 13, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) Edit Edited November 13, 2014 by quote the raven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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