Paid Members ElCece Posted June 14, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) I know Air Styles vs The Hybrid was my number 1 in wet dream match back in 01 Edited June 14, 2016 by ElCece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Clint Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) That Cena/Styles contract signing was the only entertaining thing on this boring episode of Raw. That Ambrose Asylum segment was dull as fuck but I'm sure the PPV this Sunday will most certainly deliver. I would actually like to see Jericho win his first MITB match. He would be great at teasing the cash-in. Edited June 14, 2016 by The Clint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members PunkStep Posted June 14, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted June 14, 2016 I know Air Styles vs The Hybrid was my number 1 in wet dream match back in 01 The Hybrid?? The Prototype, man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members ElCece Posted June 14, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted June 14, 2016 Fuck I need to scrub on my Cena earlier years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Danger Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 I'd never even considered it a dream match until the other week but now I'm gutted it's happening on a b level PPV. It's hard to tell which match gets the screwy finish because Styles can't be beaten clean in the first encounter and Rollins can't be losing his first one back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambulance Chaser Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) Oh dear...... WWE Raw fell hard to one of the lowest TV ratings in the 23-year history of the show Monday night against the NBA Finals. WWE Raw TV Ratings Tracking June 13: WWE Raw drew a 2.03 TV rating, down 11 percent from last week’s 2.28 rating. It was easily the lowest-rated show of the year. Historically, it was in the territory of an all-time low for Raw. (We will further research the mid-1990s era.) Raw was especially hit hard in the key demographics. Adults 18-49 fell 14% from last week, falling below a 1.0 household rating Males 18-34 fell 15% from last week, also falling below a 1.0 household rating Males 18-49 fell 21% from last week. The show scored a 1.17 m18-49 rating compared to 1.48 last week. – Raw’s three hours averaged fewer than 3.0 million viewers for the first time since November of last year. The November 23, 2015 episode averaged 2.964 million viewers. This week’s Raw averaged 2.970 million viewers to avoid being in the all-time-low category. Raw’s average of 2.970 million viewers was down 9 percent from last week’s audience. The show started sluggish in the first two hours, then fell hard in the third hour. First Hour: 3.043 million viewers (year-low) Second Hour: 3.109 million viewers (year-low) Third Hour: 2.758 million viewers (year-low / 11.3% decline from 2H) Edited June 14, 2016 by Ambulance Chaser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Good. Ambrose vs Jericho should not be main eventing the show. What the fuck are they going to do for mains when they split the roster though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambulance Chaser Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 A closer look at the rating from the Torch, worth a read. WWE Raw is close to falling below a 2.0 TV rating at some point this year after drawing a 2.03 rating on Monday night. It’s unlikely that comes next week for a post-PPV episode, especially without NBA Finals competition like this week. From the Research Department, the June 13 Raw episode was the lowest-rated in the last 19 years, dating back to March 3, 1997 – an episode a few weeks before WrestleMania 13. The Mar. 3, 1997 episode scored a 1.9 TV rating against WCW Nitro, which scored a 3.4 rating. The poor rating led to WWE changing things up at WM13, including famously double-turning Bret Hart and Steve Austin to try to make up for poor interest in the Sid vs. Undertaker feud headlining WM13. From PWTorch Newsletter #431 covering the March 10, 1997 Raw the following week: “The most important segment of Raw when it comes to both the short term (Wrestlemania) and the long term (business the rest of the year) began the second hour. Jim Ross interviewed Ken Shamrock. Ross announced that Shamrock will be special referee in the Austin vs. Bret match. …WWF management, just in the last two weeks, has committed themselves more than ever to building around Steve Austin as one of the top three wrestlers (along with Bret and Shamrock), moving him above Sid and even Undertaker in the unofficial hierarchy.” One year later, the March 2, 1998 Raw leading into WM14 for Austin vs. Shawn Michaels scored double the TV rating – a 3.8. *** There were also episodes in Fall 1996 that scored similar 2.0 ratings. Plus, the tied all-time-low TV rating in the history of Raw was a 1.8 on October 14, 1996. That led to big changes for Raw trying to compete against WCW. Some might sound familiar. From PWTorch Newsletter #412 in October 1996: “With Raw’s crashing ratings, Vince McMahon put himself back on camera to try to give Raw a ‘major league, must see’ feel again. He wasn’t alone in thinking that. As good as Kevin Kelly was, the lack of McMahon’s presence made the show seem less important.” The Oct. 14, 1996 Raw featured Shawn Michaels vs. Steve Austin in a match advertised as “perhaps the biggest match ever on Raw.” But, it was before Austin got that Top 3 status in March 1997 and one-and-a-half-years before Austin vs. HBK at WM14 officially kicked off the Austin Era. Then, in November 1996, Raw slid back to a 2.0 TV rating. This prompted USA Network to agree with WWE on changing things up battling WCW Nitro. From PWTorch Newsletter #414 in November 1996: “Bret Hart’s return and the advertised return of Mr. Perfect to the ring on the Oct. 21 Raw drew an improved, but nevertheless disappointing rating of 2.6. The WWF hoped Bret’s return would be a momentum builder. The next week, with the Bret Hart-Steve Austin “live debate” as the primary hook for the show, the ratings slid back down to a poor 2.0 rating. “It was the 18th straight week that Nitro beat Raw. Until Nitro expanded to two hours, the shows were nearly even. What became alarming was the recent margin of victory for Nitro and the fact that Bret’s return to the WWF only shot ratings up one week. That prompted USA Network to finally agree with the WWF’s desire to shift Raw’s timeslot; USA decided to move it an hour earlier.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Benno Posted June 14, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) https://twitter.com/adecorativedrop/status/742829343915773952 I think we're going into historic lows with the roster split. They can't make 3 hours compelling with a full roster, nevermind half. It's madness. Edited June 14, 2016 by Benno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mole Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Its going to be even lower on July 4th Independence Day, probably be the lowest Raw ever but should bounce back the week after, they should save their bigger ,TV storylines and matches for the following Smackdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUM Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 The difference with the low rating back then is they had competition so they cared more. The show also wasn't as accessible as it was back then - the way people watch their TV has changed, not everyone watches live anymore. No doubt it's a shit rating but it's probably not as shit as hitting that sort of rating in 1997 was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOKER T-axi Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Opening segment was so badly written. It's hard to know who the show is aimed at. If it's aimed at children then the sexual stuff about the trombone is creepy. If it's aimed at adults then that entire segment was childish and no one came off like they were tough. Even Gallows and Anderson "we hate to be the fun police but.." ....badass men shouldn't talk like that. All that innuendo and nobody mentioned playing the rusty trombone. Dissapointing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Good. Ambrose vs Jericho should not be main eventing the show. What the fuck are they going to do for mains when they split the roster though? Who should be main eventing Raw though? They have shown they do not care about what they put on in the 3rd hour, and are using the end of the first and second hour for their main event feuds (Reigns/Rolling and Cena/Styles at the moment) before people turn the channel in the third hour. The biggest problem (and it has been a problem for some time now) is the serous lack of main event talent on the roster. The roster is full of great wrestlers, but only a handful are really treated at a top stars; the rest exchange wins and loses with each other far too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyattSheepMask Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 The difference with the low rating back then is they had competition so they cared more. The show also wasn't as accessible as it was back then - the way people watch their TV has changed, not everyone watches live anymore. No doubt it's a shit rating but it's probably not as shit as hitting that sort of rating in 1997 was. The point you made about peoples viewing habits is something that tends to get overlooked. OnDemand TV has grown massively in the last few years, and will eventually become the norm. The binge-watch culture that things like Netflix have cultivated, I.e entire series going up in one go rather than week by week, will become the way that TV is consumed, and you can start to see it on the network too like how they stick the whole second series of Swerved. The concern for WWE is if advertisers stop paying for the ad-space as the viewing audience drops, because that's less eyes on whoever a product is being advertised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrasslin Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Have TV ratings generally followed a downward trend in the same way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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