Paid Members Arch Stanton Posted January 16, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 16, 2016 These days I will only tolerate JR's podcast if it's an absolute can't-miss guest. What a fucking pain in the arse that man is to listen to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam O'Rourke Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Just to drop this here, but this week's Squared Circle Gazette Radio is now up, as we enter 1998 in our Monday Night War Timeline Series. With inside notes as always from the Wrestling Observer Newsletters of the time, we tackle every Raw and Nitro from January and February, talking WCW turmoil backstage, the continued rise of Steve Austin, The Rock shining, Hulk Hogan's political moves, Bret Hart's first WCW match, little known WCW attempted counterstrikes at WWF's signing Mike Tyson, the incredible Tyson and Austin angle, and tons more. With all the facts and figures of the time to hand, we break down a fascinating two months that lays the groundwork for the impending changing of the guard. A really fun show this week, check it out and let us know what you think! Ā http://squaredcirclegazette.podbean.com/mf/play/tkmgeh/SCGRadio68-TheMondayNightWarin1998-JanandFeb.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Clint Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Fucking love these Timelines on SCG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted January 17, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 17, 2016 Cracking work as ever lads. Personal highlights - Ā * Gunmen Of The Apocalypse reference from Chase ("Diamond Dan McGrew"). * "You fucking bellends!!!" Actually in general, it was a great episode for angry Chase f-bombs. * Karl's summation of the evolution of various talents in the WWF over the 18 months up to the period covered, and WCW's stagnation in comparison. * "The quote, unquote, "action" in the ring." Great work, Keiran. * The idea that Ric Flair would just go toy shopping because he didn't want to appear on Nitro. Ā It's incredibly seeing all the cracks in WCW looking back, because at the time I thought every Nitro was brilliant whether it made sense or not. I cared about the whole roster and wanted to see what would happen next. Long after I * should * have clocked that it was repetitive, I was still tuning in and thinking "this is great." Oh well, I was 15 with the attention span of a 9 year old. That's my excuse and I'm sticking with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam O'Rourke Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Glad you enjoyed it - Chase is on fine form with the Timeline shows of late. Ā That's a great point you make about WCW though, because I'll be honest, I was in the exact same boat as you. I had access to both, and around this time is when TNT and Sky put them completely head to head, and it was so hard to choose what to watch, but it felt like WCW never reached that point until later this year. nWo dissention felt cool and novel, and the addition of Bret and being intrigued by him challenging top guys, plus guys like Goldberg, Raven and Jericho building momentum was kind of camoflauging the stagnation a little bit, and while I was always a WWF guy at heart, I was well aware just how awful DOA, the Godwinns, the Boricuas and Kurrgan were, and they were my cue to check out Nitro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted January 19, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) Another really good show. Love these timeline shows. Have todisagree with raid on WCW. I only followed it from PowerSlam at this point but I got a real impression that the product was stale and old. Ā The WWF by comparison had a real freshness and despite some lame arses mentioned in Liam's post, had tons of guys who were either clearly on the rise, felt fresh or were undergoing a transformation that was bringing about some freshness in their characters. It wasn't all perfect and with hindsight, it's even less so, but it had a chaotic quality that made the shows fly by. Ā Really enjoyed the guys pointing out how great Rock was getting at this point. I still hated him, because of his character, but I was finding him really entertaining. He was such a great cunt though. Everytime I started to really like him, he'd be a prick and I'd go back to hating him. Ā Oh, and the One Man Gang had a WWF tryout in 1998? GTFO. Edited January 19, 2016 by tiger_rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshC Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Akeem would have made a perfect fit for the babyface Oddities later in the year, wouldn't he? Great show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted January 19, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) Have todisagree with raid on WCW. I only followed it from PowerSlam at this point but I got a real impression that the product was stale and old. Ā I'm tempted to be an arsehole about having an opinion about something you didn't actually watch, but I was an avid PS reader at the time too and that was how it was portrayed. Ā In "What's Going Down" Fin would routinely throw in lines like "the show went off air with the nWo standing tall AGAIN" and making allusions to the fact things really hadn't changed much in two years, but I was nowhere near jaded enough at that point to let anyone else's musings make me question my own enjoyment. WCW had made a convert out of me after six or so solid years of being 100% in the WWF camp through a mix of having characters that I wanted to see what they were doing next and great midcard matches. Unlike todays WWE where everyone has already wrestled everyone, in WCW they had so many guys and so many different styles, they could throw something fresh at you every week. While PS got it right that the PPVs usually had lacklustre main events, the storylines kept moving enough that I still found it the must-watch show even to the point where I'd do the Nitro-Thunder back to back and flick on the stupid-AM repeat of Raw, pausing only to get the freeview on Playboy in the hope of the occasional flash of Kathy Lloyd or Jenny McCarthy's tits. Ā The Sting disaster being what it was, the nWo slowly unraveling, into the actual split, kept me tuning in week after week. I wanted to see what happened to them, I wanted to see what Goldberg would do, what DDP would do, who Benoit or Dean Malenko was wrestling, etc. Going into 1998 I was 100% a WCW fan first, Bret leaving the WWF left them even further behind in my affections (even though obviously WCW missed the boat on him) and while the WWF did recover on the back of Steve Austin as champion, DX being clowns, Rock transforming into a heat machine and Sable taking her top off, I still loved WCW. For every weak show, I always felt they came back the week after with SOMETHING that happened either from a match point of view or a storyline twist, long into 1998 and the focus shifting from nWo v nWo and onto Goldberg. Even the nWo reformation/finger poke didn't turn me off at the time, it was only after the Hogan/Flair double turn (which kind of killed the idea of Goldberg running through the nWo elite in turn, dead in its tracks) and a sequence of nonsensical turns that were hard to keep up with and alliances that were formed one month and discarded the next, that I actually decided "Oh... they've fucked it." Ā But yeah, the time that Liam et al are up to, I was still hooked. The gradual disintegration of the nWo was as compelling to me as their initial insurgence had been. Plus, the midcard matches, fap fap fap. Edited January 19, 2016 by air_raid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Benno Posted January 19, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 19, 2016 even to the point where I'd do the Nitro-Thunder back to back and flick on the stupid-AM repeat of Raw, pausing only to get the freeview on Playboy in the hope of the occasional flash of Kathy Lloyd or Jenny McCarthy's tits. Ā Quite worried you were me here, but more likely this was a more common Friday Night for a teenage Brit than I thought. Ā Fantastic Post. My brother had completely checked out on WCW at this point and he absolutely hated that I insisted on sticking with Nitro and Thunder before we could watch Raw. Probabaly a big part of why he fucked wrestling off. Ā The rare time they'd forget to turn that Playboy Freeview off after 5 minutes was always a bonus though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted January 19, 2016 Moderators Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) Yeah, I used to stick with Thunder as well. Then switch over to DSF for World of Wrestling.Ā Ā WCW til about 3am, no porn for me, unless I enjoyed the DSF adverts for "Der Nachtclub oh nununun noinzig, noinoin noinoin oinsechs" or the one that was "For only noinzig pfennig, nah studerbai! Eeeenz Zwei Zwei Eeeenz Zwei Zwei!" Edited January 19, 2016 by PowerButchi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieknight Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Hey guys brand new podcast added to Seconds Away! Its Knight Time catalog with Andy Simmonz. Chatting Jake Roberts,IPW-UK,FWA glory years, his WWE trials and angle with Vince on RAW. Ā https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/seconds-away!-its-knight-time/id1060493375?mt=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam O'Rourke Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Yeah, I used to stick with Thunder as well. Then switch over to DSF for World of Wrestling. Ā WCW til about 3am, no porn for me, unless I enjoyed the DSF adverts for "Der Nachtclub oh nununun noinzig, noinoin noinoin oinsechs" or the one that was "For only noinzig pfennig, nah studerbai! Eeeenz Zwei Zwei Eeeenz Zwei Zwei!" That recreation is fucking spectacular. Giving me flashbacks to closeups of heavily lipsticked ladies standing uncomfortably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted January 24, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 24, 2016 Ric Flair's podcast this week is a belter. Conrad and the Nature Boy do audio commentary over the 1992 Royal Rumble. Its as good as you'd imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Arch Stanton Posted January 24, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 24, 2016 That sounds great, I'll definitely check that out. On a similar note, I enjoyed Austin doing live commentary on his Unforgiven 2001 title match against Kurt Angle recently. I actually watched the match on the Network at the same time as listening to the podcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dart Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 I listened to the Ric Flair one yesterday. Never listened to his show before so don't know if it was usual, but the audio quality was terrible. The content was really good though. Would definetly be a good one to listen to while watching the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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