TheKingofKings Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Who comes up with these reports? I'm not believing any of the Vince ones. Â Yeah, exactly. Where are all these reports coming from? Straight from WWE creative. And we're all gobbling it up like mid-90s marks. Come on UKFF; I thought we were smarter than that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1SinN6 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Without wishing to appear to support New Jack's views, if he's always hated Lawler and thought he was a racist prick, he shouldn't pretend to like him now just because he's had a heart attack. He should just not say anything at all of course, but that's not his style. This is right. No need for massive hypocrisy. Find it odd reading that people hope they hear Lawler commentate again soon when most of those people have been saying he could give it up for years. And odd that people praise Michael Cole for his "real" handling of the situation. Yet many of them have slagged Cole and Lawler and JR for going into "real" mode for angles since Owen Hart's death. Â Hope Lawler recovers. He's a shit commentator these days but I don't wish ill health on him. Â Reports are coming out now that apparently Vince didn't stay by Lawler's side and instead just checked up on him and returned to gorilla position, and that "word for word" (though I find that hard to believe) everything Michael Cole said was fed to him through his headset by Vince. Â Who comes up with these reports? I'm not believing any of the Vince ones. Â Â I had the feeling Cole was left all alone. He even started calling MOVES! BY THEIR NAME!! Â For some reason I have trouble believing Vince would let Cole say the word 'Suplex'. That really sounds pity for a wrestling fed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingofKings Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 I had the feeling Cole was left all alone. He even started calling MOVES! BY THEIR NAME!! For some reason I have trouble believing Vince would let Cole say the word 'Suplex'. That really sounds pity for a wrestling fed.  They did the exact same thing ten years ago when Chyna "broke her neck". Serious voices and serious wrestling for the rest of the show, with constant serious voice updates on Chyna. Smarten up! THIS IS PRO WRESTLING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Reefer Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Without wishing to appear to support New Jack's views, if he's always hated Lawler and thought he was a racist prick, he shouldn't pretend to like him now just because he's had a heart attack. He should just not say anything at all of course, but that's not his style. This is right. No need for massive hypocrisy. Find it odd reading that people hope they hear Lawler commentate again soon when most of those people have been saying he could give it up for years. And odd that people praise Michael Cole for his "real" handling of the situation. Yet many of them have slagged Cole and Lawler and JR for going into "real" mode for angles since Owen Hart's death. Â Hope Lawler recovers. He's a shit commentator these days but I don't wish ill health on him. Â Reports are coming out now that apparently Vince didn't stay by Lawler's side and instead just checked up on him and returned to gorilla position, and that "word for word" (though I find that hard to believe) everything Michael Cole said was fed to him through his headset by Vince. Â Who comes up with these reports? I'm not believing any of the Vince ones. Â I can believe that Vince felt it more important to keep the show afloat than get in the way of the EMT's working on Jerry. He couldn't do any good hanging around Jerry like a spare prick at a wedding but he could do some good reminding everyone they have 2 hours of TV to finish and 20,000 paying customers to keep happy. Â Sounds cold but big business is cold and Vince is a businessman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingofKings Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 I can believe that Vince felt it more important to keep the show afloat than get in the way of the EMT's working on Jerry. He couldn't do any good hanging around Jerry like a spare prick at a wedding but he could do some good reminding everyone they have 2 hours of TV to finish and 20,000 paying customers to keep happy. Sounds cold but big business is cold and Vince is a businessman.  Anyone wonder why Bret Hart was still on the show, even though he's repeatedly stated his belief that if something like this happens the show should be immediately cancelled? It's because it was a work!  Vince didn't need to worry about what to do because it was all predetermined, just like any other week. I can't believe how gullible everyone suddenly is.  Remember the time Vince McMahon died due to limo explosion? He turned up a week later fine. Some kind of voodoo miracle? No! Storylines! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1SinN6 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 I can believe that Vince felt it more important to keep the show afloat than get in the way of the EMT's working on Jerry. He couldn't do any good hanging around Jerry like a spare prick at a wedding but he could do some good reminding everyone they have 2 hours of TV to finish and 20,000 paying customers to keep happy. Sounds cold but big business is cold and Vince is a businessman.  Anyone wonder why Bret Hart was still on the show, even though he's repeatedly stated his belief that if something like this happens the show should be immediately cancelled? It's because it was a work!  Vince didn't need to worry about what to do because it was all predetermined, just like any other week. I can't believe how gullible everyone suddenly is.  Remember the time Vince McMahon died due to limo explosion? He turned up a week later fine. Some kind of voodoo miracle? No! Storylines!  So after 30 years of booking, Vince NOW understands that if you want to get something over you present it in a believable way (no camerashots, no replays) ?  Thats quite the turnaround for the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Freebird Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 And odd that people praise Michael Cole for his "real" handling of the situation. Yet many of them have slagged Cole and Lawler and JR for going into "real" mode for angles since Owen Hart's death. Â For angles though, that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members FLips Posted September 12, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted September 12, 2012 Without wishing to appear to support New Jack's views, if he's always hated Lawler and thought he was a racist prick, he shouldn't pretend to like him now just because he's had a heart attack. He should just not say anything at all of course, but that's not his style. This is right. No need for massive hypocrisy. Find it odd reading that people hope they hear Lawler commentate again soon when most of those people have been saying he could give it up for years. And odd that people praise Michael Cole for his "real" handling of the situation. Yet many of them have slagged Cole and Lawler and JR for going into "real" mode for angles since Owen Hart's death.  Hope Lawler recovers. He's a shit commentator these days but I don't wish ill health on him.  Reports are coming out now that apparently Vince didn't stay by Lawler's side and instead just checked up on him and returned to gorilla position, and that "word for word" (though I find that hard to believe) everything Michael Cole said was fed to him through his headset by Vince.  Who comes up with these reports? I'm not believing any of the Vince ones.  The actual bit is from NoDQ.com, but the source is F4W -  - F4WOnline.com published a report clarifying rumors of WWE's handling of Monday's Raw show after broadcaster and wrestler Jerry Lawler suffered a heart attack while commentating. According to a WWE employee backstage at the event, it was a very chaotic scene but he did not see any pray groups. Contrary to speculation, there was never any talk of halting the show.  WWE chief Vince McMahon was not at Lawler's side during the entire ordeal, as reported. He briefly checked on the backstage commotion during a commercial break before resuming his producing duties at Gorilla Position. Rather, Paul "Triple H" Levesque directed orders backstage.  All of broadcaster Michael Cole's on-air verbiage concerning Lawler was directed by McMahon word-for-word.  Could be bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 I had the feeling Cole was left all alone. He even started calling MOVES! BY THEIR NAME!! For some reason I have trouble believing Vince would let Cole say the word 'Suplex'. That really sounds pity for a wrestling fed.  They did the exact same thing ten years ago when Chyna "broke her neck". Serious voices and serious wrestling for the rest of the show, with constant serious voice updates on Chyna. Smarten up! THIS IS PRO WRESTLING!  Thank you Jesus, a new idiot to play with. Or a returning idiot. Pile on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Reefer Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Anyone wonder why Bret Hart was still on the show, Â Â Apart from Jerry not being dead and it being in Montreal? Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingofKings Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 So after 30 years of booking, Vince NOW understands that if you want to get something over you present it in a believable way (no camerashots, no replays) ?  Thats quite the turnaround for the guy.  It's not a new development. When they did the limo thing he was so angry with London for smiling in the build up that he fired him. He's been wanting to do this properly for ages.  Apart from Jerry not being dead and it being in Montreal?   I don't buy it. Hart is a man of integrity. If someone was on death's door and it happened on the show, no way would he carry on in character - it would totally discredit everything he's said for the last thirteen years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dopper Posted September 12, 2012 Author Share Posted September 12, 2012 And odd that people praise Michael Cole for his "real" handling of the situation. Yet many of them have slagged Cole and Lawler and JR for going into "real" mode for angles since Owen Hart's death. Â That's completely different. Â Cole often gets critisized for the way he puts across angles, sometimes changing his tone & style to insinuate something is really serious and not part of the show. Â He is not being praised in this & the Raw topic for doing that better than usual. Â He is being praised because while his mate was conceivably dying (firstly right next to him and then backstage), he didn't fall to pieces and managed to calmly do his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted September 12, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted September 12, 2012 If you feed this troll, then you are just as big an idiot as he is. Just ignore the stupid cunt. Â Back on the topic in hand, which isn't New Jack by the way, I am left wondering if WWE might implement a policy now about guys (and girls) over a certain age no longer performing for them after this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members CleetusVanDamme Posted September 12, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted September 12, 2012 It's not a new development. When they did the limo thing he was so angry with London for smiling in the build up that he fired him. Â So angry that he waited a year and a half to take action? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Freebird Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 TheKingofKings: Troll, idiot or completely new to the internet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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