Guest Posted January 20, 2025 Posted January 20, 2025 47 minutes ago, Chili said: Come on guys, let's see the lists. Who are you shitcanning?!?! I won't bore eveyrone will the whole list, but I will tell you that Griff Garrison did not make the cut. Shawn Dean has a back office job, so he survived Quote
Paid Members Supremo Posted January 20, 2025 Paid Members Posted January 20, 2025 Does Alex Abrahantes work in merchandising or something? If not, we're going to have to have a difficult conversation. Quote
Paid Members Hannibal Scorch Posted January 20, 2025 Paid Members Posted January 20, 2025 9 minutes ago, Supremo said: Does Alex Abrahantes work in merchandising or something? If not, we're going to have to have a difficult conversation. He definitely does work backstage. Believe he used to for ROH back in the day as well (or PWG? hard to remember). And that's also in-between him selling Dell computers on QVC of course. Spoilers for his QVC gig, he does not translate what the laptops and PC's are saying. Quote
Paid Members FLips Posted January 20, 2025 Paid Members Posted January 20, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chili said: Come on guys, let's see the lists. Who are you shitcanning?!?! There's even more there to shitcan than I thought, looking at the roster page I can pick multiple people out of each row. I haven't watched properly in over a year now though so someone will have to let me know if any of these picks are actually doing anything of note these days. Aaron Solo Action Andretti Alex Abrahantes Angelico Anthony Ogogo AR Fox Ariya Daivari Bishop Kaun Brandon Cutler (I think he's an EVP or at least a lifer though) Chris Jericho Colt Cabana Dante Martin Darius Martin Griff Garrison Johnny TV Josh Woods Keith Lee Kip Sabian Lee Johnson Matt Sydal Undisputed Kingdom, shite. Michael Nakazawa Miro Nick Comoroto Paul Wight Peter Avalon Preston Vance Scorpio Sky Serpentico Shawn Dean Tao Liona That's me being generous and giving the benefit of the doubt to some of the luchas I don't know and some of the people I would have chosen if they weren't some form of ROH Champion. I also didn't pick any women as the roster is barebones to begin with and I couldn't even start to tell you who is who for the most part. Even if you don't agree with some of them, that's enough names to fill a roster nevermind pick as chaff from the actual roster to cut. I think it's slightly worrying though how many stars have left, or are trying to leave allegedly because they either don't like Tony Khan, don't like working for the company or were embroiled in backstage bullshittery. Cody Rhodes, CM Punk, Britt Baker, Ricky Starks, Penta, Rey Fenix to name a few. Some of those are names you don't want to run out your door. I'm not saying it would get me to tune in if all these people were cut, but narrowing the roster down and focusing on the ones left surely couldn't be a bad thing. Edited January 20, 2025 by FLips Quote
RedTwoster Posted January 20, 2025 Posted January 20, 2025 2 minutes ago, FLips said: Dante Martin Darius Martin There was a point when I really thought Dante Martin might end up becoming something in AEW, he’s tremendous fun to watch in ring, and his high-flying is genuinely spectacular. I think he’d end up becoming a real stand-out if he’s ever picked up by NXT. His mic skills need work, but there’s definitely something there with him. Quote
Chili Posted January 20, 2025 Posted January 20, 2025 Fair play to everyone posting their lists but anyone, I MEAN anyone canning Serpentico/Jon Cruz after that Samoa Joe cross body spot deserves nothing ? Quote
RedTwoster Posted January 20, 2025 Posted January 20, 2025 Ah screw it, if it takes my mind off Trump’s presidency, it’s worth doing. Here’s who I reckon they could get rid of without most AEW viewers even noticing. This isn’t who I’d personally dump, though - I just don’t think most viewers would even realise any of these people have gone. I’ve not included people with backstage roles. Aaron Solo Abadon Action Andretti Alex Reynolds Angelo Parker Anthony Ogogo AR Fox Athena Bandido Billie Starkz Bishop Kaun Brit Baker The Blade Boulder Bronson The Butcher Carlie Bravo Cole Karter Danhausen Dante Martin Darius Martin Diamante Dralistico Dutch EJ Nduka Emi Sakura Griff Garrison Hologram James Drake Jay Lethal John Silver Johnny TV Kamille Keith Lee Kiera Hogan Kip Sabian Komander Kota Ibushi Lee Johnson Lee Moriarty Leila Gray Leyla Hirsch Lio Rush Mark Davis Marshall Von Erich Matt Sydal Miro Nick Comoroto Nyla Rose Ortiz Peter Avalon Preston Vance Queen Aminata Rachael Ellering Rebel Red Velvet Riho Ricky Starks Rocky Romero Ross Von Erich Rush Sammy Guevara Satnam Singh Scorpio Sky Serena Deeb Serpentico Shane Taylor Shawn Dean Taya Valkyrie Toa Liona Tommy Billington Tony Nese Trent Vincent Viva Van Wardlow Yuka Sakazaki Zack Gibson Zak Knight 79 people. That’s wild. Quote
Paid Members JLM Posted January 21, 2025 Paid Members Posted January 21, 2025 (edited) I don't disagree on the major roster bloat and would cut quite a few people myself. My list doesn't include people listed on the roster page but who have other main jobs for AEW. Angelico, Alex Abrahantes, Ariya Daivari, Brandon Cutler, Colt Cabana Peter Avalon, Rocky Romero, Serpentico. They're primarily commentators/producers/coaches/talent relations guys etc. who wrestle dark matches/lower card/ROH appearances on the side. I'd say using people with other roles in the company as lower card jobbers is actually the opposite of roster bloat. However, of the people who ARE full time wrestlers I'd still cut quite a few: Aaron Solo, one of the most boring pro wrestlers of all time. Action Andretti. I do not care for Action Andretti. I may have mentioned this before. Anthony Ogogo is a debatable one. I liked him as an enforcer for Shane Taylor Promotions and he's actually a decent heel talker. I'd maybe move him into another role rather than cut him. Boulder and Bronson. The Iron Savages are my most hated act in all of pro wrestling. It was nice to see on the roster page that Jacked Jameson isn't a full time employee at least. Bryan Keith. Not sure why he was hired in the first place. Butcher and Blade. I quite like the team and I don't mind Butcher as a singles guy, but I wouldn't be excited for them to come back. Butcher also seems slow and off the pace in the few appearances he makes these days. Think their time is done. Carlie Bravo. The Infantry are a crushingly dull act. Would cut Shawn Dean as well but, as previously mentioned, he has a backstage role sourcing jobbers for Dutch to Bossman Slam. That's a respectable profession and I support it. Cole Karter. He's like a really shit version of Austin Theory, if you can even imagine such a thing. Dante Martin, Darius Martin. Feels bad as I, like many others, saw much potential in Dante for a time there. They're a perfectly fine tag team but they have stagnated so much and their music now triggers the same chemical reaction in my brain as the Coronation Street opening theme. I fucking hate Coronation Street. Griff Garrison. I think if I tried to explain why I'd fall asleep thinking about it. Lee Johnson. Imagine Ricochet's worst babyface promo and know that it is better than Lee Johnson's best. He is a handsome young man who can do very impressive things in the ring but he has overwhelmingly powerful anti-charisma. You'd think being married to Julia Hart might give you a little confidence boost, but alas no. Marshall Von Erich. Significantly better than the other one. I understand the name value and the appeal in the relevant markets, but if it was my call I'd shitcan the pair of them. Matt Sydal. Not sure if he's also pivoting into some kind of coach/experienced head role. If he's just a wrestler then yeah, I'd get rid at this point. Preston Vance. Zzzzzzzzz.... Ross Von Erich. He is very very bad at pro wrestling. I genuinely thought "oh he's just starting out but Tony's put him on TV as a novelty because the Iron Claw movie's coming out and he has the name value etc." Then I find out he was trained by Harley Race, Kevin Von Erich and Naomichi Marufuji and has been wrestling for TWELVE YEARS. Absolutely astonishing. Sammy Guevara. I just don't see it ever happening for Sammy. He has some of the pieces. He's a good looking guy, has impressive athleticism, can be a decent smarmy heel, but he doesn't really seem to get it. He can't make me care with promos or matches and he shows no signs of getting any better. Scorpio Sky. Obviously. Wardlow. I think we've seen the best he can do and there were flashes/hints of something there but it didn't happen and I don't see it happening. I'd also much rather see the sort of push he would need be given to a Takeshita or Powerhouse Hobbs. Zak Knight. Shite. Will have a look at the women's roster tomorrow. Edited January 21, 2025 by JLM Quote
Chili Posted January 21, 2025 Posted January 21, 2025 13 minutes ago, JLM said: Will have a look at the women's roster tomorrow. A long, hard look. Ye dirty fecker. Quote
Awards Moderator HarmonicGenerator Posted January 21, 2025 Awards Moderator Posted January 21, 2025 (edited) I didn’t write them all down, but I looked through that roster on Wikipedia, got to 58 people I would cut. (If they’ve got back office jobs, keep them but take them off the active roster page.) Edited January 21, 2025 by HarmonicGenerator Quote
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted January 21, 2025 Author Paid Members Posted January 21, 2025 Instead of cutting them all I say BRING BACK DARK! Shove them all on there doing pointless matches for 3 hours each week while Excalibur and Taz talk random bollocks throughout. Quote
Paid Members Supremo Posted January 21, 2025 Paid Members Posted January 21, 2025 8 hours ago, JLM said: Bryan Keith. Not sure why he was hired in the first place. I never saw the appeal until recently, but I think he’s actually quite funny as the X-rated Scrappy Doo, calling everyone a motherfucker. As with all of Jericho’s factions the past few years, if you removed Jericho himself there’d actually be a good act there. Big Bill and Little Bri would make a great little tag team, motherfucker! You’re all sleeping on Scorpio Sky. Six or seven more botched returns, where they air a random vignette on Collision and then he vanishes again for another six months, and things are really going to turn around! Quote
King Mal the Glorious Posted January 21, 2025 Posted January 21, 2025 From both men and women, I got 27 gone entirely and 25 to go to/stay in ROH: Spoiler Gone Aaron Solo Anthony Ogogo Griff Garrison Jay Lethal Keith Lee Kota Ibushi (he's past it) Lee Johnson Malakai Black (already on his way so might as well list him) Matt Sydal Miro Nick Comoroto Ortiz Paul Wight Preston Vance Rey Fenix (see Malakai) Ricky Starks (same again) Scorpio Sky The Blade The Butcher Wardlow Abadon Britt Baker Kamille Kiera Hogan Rebel Ruby Soho Saraya Off to/stay in ROH Action Andretti Alex Reynolds Angelico AR Fox Ariya Daivari Carlie Bravo Dralistico John Silver Johnny TV Josh Woods Mark Davis Matt Taven Mike Bennett Satnam Singh Shawn Dean Tony Nese Dante Martin Darius Martin Sammy Guevara Diamante Leila Grey Leyla Hirsch Mercedes Martinez Red Velvet Serena Deeb Didn't include the people I know have other jobs, otherwise you could chuck another 7 or 8 in there. Quote
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted January 21, 2025 Author Paid Members Posted January 21, 2025 33 minutes ago, Supremo said: You’re all sleeping on Scorpio Sky. Six or seven more botched returns, where they air a random vignette on Collision and then he vanishes again for another six months, and things are really going to turn around! One of my favourite JR in AEW moments was when Sky first went heel and did some guest commentary. It was the absolute shits, full of the most lame, cringe and cliche heel lines you could possibly manage and when at the end of the segment it cut to a shot of Sky at the commentary table JR just looks so fucking pissed off with it all I burst out laughing. Quote
The King Of Swing Posted January 21, 2025 Posted January 21, 2025 Getting pissy over a backrake is still my favourite "JR having a sulk" moment. It's so easy to explain (the guy is sticking his finger nails in your back FFS) but JR was having none of it. Quote
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