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Yeah and Twitter’s been full of ‘see, I knew she was lying’ shite ever since. Because never in the history of time has there been a case of domestic abuse where the woman has chosen not to follow up on the accusations in the original statement because of fear, misguided loyalty to the cunt, what’s ‘best for the kids’, hush money, thinking they won’t be believed etc etc. Or all the above. Obviously the fight will go ahead if she doesn’t follow through with the charges, but people banging on like this proves his innocence is complete and utter bollocks. Especially given his track record, including grabbing a woman by the throat on fucking video and in front of a load of witnesses. Sadly it doesn’t surprise me at all that a big chunk of the reaction I’ve seen has been along the lines of ‘see he’s innocent, now charge her for wasting police time’ from cretins who clearly don’t know how these things work. 

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The head of the World Boxing Council is planning to create a new avenue for transgender boxers to practice their craft.

In an interview published Thursday on The Telegraph, WBC boss Mauricio Sulaiman informed the UK newspaper that his sanctioning body is looking to form a separate league for transgender boxers, in the name of “safety and inclusion.”

“We are going to put out a global call for those who are interested in 2023 and we will set up the protocols, start consultation and most likely create a league and a tournament,” Sulaiman said. “It is the time to do this, and we are doing this because of safety and inclusion. We have been the leaders in rules for women’s boxing – so the dangers of a man fighting a woman will never happen because of what we are going to put in place.”

In August, the WBC published a release expressing its unequivocal support for transgender athletes. It noted that the notion of what constitutes a fair bout is murky: "At present there is no consensus whether a bout between a transgender man against a cisgender (biological) man is a fair bout between two equally matched competitors."

Under the proposed rules, Sulaiman stated that boxers assigned different genders at birth would not fight each other. In other words, a trans male fighter born a woman would only be allowed to fight against a fellow trans fighter born a woman.

“In boxing, a man fighting a woman must never be accepted regardless of gender change,” Sulaiman said. “There should be no grey area around this, and we want to go into it with transparency and the correct decisions. Woman to man or man to woman transgender change will never be allowed to fight a different gender by birth.”

The news comes as debate about trans athletes has reached a fever pitch. In America, for example, controversy has swirled over swimmer Lia Thomas.

The most prominent transgender boxer is Patricio Manuel, a decorated amateur who has the distinction of being the first openly transgender man to box professionally in the United States.  

In November, the International Olympic Committee offered some guidelines for individual sporting leagues regarding trans athletes.

"No athlete should be precluded from competing or excluded from competition on the exclusive ground of an unverified, alleged or perceived unfair competitive advantage due to their sex variations, physical appearance and/or transgender status," the IOC said.

In the Telegraph interview, women’s junior middleweight champion Natasha Jones of England offered her endorsement of the WBC’s plans.

“It’s dangerous either way,” Jones said. “If you are born a woman you should not be fighting a man, and if a man transitioning to a woman fights a born woman there are definitely physiological disadvantages for the female.

Sulaiman said that his organization is “creating a set of rules and structures so that transgender boxing can take place, as they fully deserve to if they want to box.”

“We do not yet know the numbers that there are out there, but we’re opening a universal registration in 2023, so that we can understand the boxers that are out there – and we’ll start from there.”

It's rare that I say it, but a good move from Sulaiman there. Glad trans athletes are being given the chance to showcase their skills in combat sports, which is obviously a very complicated area for such fighters.

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Taylor/Catterall had the potential to be a new Froch/Groves of sorts. The rematch should have been a big deal but they've dragged their feet, the buzz generated by the controversy is gone, the belts are gone, Josh Taylor's stock has slumped and Catterall's missed his big chance. Just a crap situation.

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Taylor is the legitimate champion at junior welter though, doesn't really matter what the alphabet morons have to say about the matter. He holds the Ring title, which is what matters. 

Catterall will likely still get his chance, then I think we'll see Taylor vs Prograis II. Still plenty of excitement ahead.

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yeah but he shouldn't be, Catterall should be the unfied Champion...and whilst it doesn't really matter, a unified world title rematch would have been a pretty cool selling point and what Catterall deserved (and maybe the first ever 4 belt era unified rematch?). Regardless, the last year has been a mess.

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speaking of the two, they almost went at it at the fight Eubank/Smith fight last night:

 

Despite the messiness of the entire situation, it's a shame the fight still isn't happening. Sounds like the idea was for Boxxer to have them do a full on face-off and announce the fight last night only to have to pull it last minute. There were a few a pre-taped interviews shown during the night that didn't really make sense considering the fight had been postponed.

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If you were to eat Canelo's contaminated beef, Fury's contaminated wild boar meat, and Conor Benn's eggs you would be having the meal of your life and roided up like The Warlord at his prime. 

Having said that, what a fucking joke the WBC's investigation into Conor Benn is. The defence of eating so many eggs he tested positive is an absolute scrambles. When they said he was moving up to fight at 158 I didn't realise that was how many eggs a day he was eating. 

Let's see if he comes back in the same shape, though the British Board are saying that they still won't give him a license. 

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To make this even more stupid. Here is Conor on 4th October 2022 explaining a typical daily diet. 

 

'A typical day of food for me is a protein option like seabream, salmon or prawns with some carbs like egg noodles, rice, sweet or baked potato. And then obviously veg: broccoli steams, vegetable stir fry. Then some 0% yoghurt with granola. Sometimes an omelette.'

 

https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/sport/article/chris-eubank-jr-conor-benn-interview-2022

 

So he went from that to eating 60 eggs a day. 

 

He could be trying to break Paul Newmans records I guess.

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