Paid Members Linus Posted August 2, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted August 2, 2016 From a position of absolute ignorance, might it be the Ritz's willingness to book other, smaller-drawing promotions, thus risking diluting the main "product"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleslie92 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 It does seem strange. The Manchester shows obviously have moved in the right direction attendance wise. Saw Smallman say on Twitter it was a myriad of things. Perhaps it's a venue issue. He did imply they're at their limit of shows in a reply - i.e. that you can have "too much of a good thing".  https://twitter.com/jimsmallman/status/760185838651183104  Obviously I'm not really privy to any of the decision making, but I'm inclined to think this is likely the main reason for the decision. 18 Chapter shows a year plus extras with ENDVR and PTNTL is a lot of shows for a company that is still only run by one full time and two part time people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members JNLister Posted August 3, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted August 3, 2016 Birmingham makes a lot of sense as an afternoon venue as it means you can stick guys on early in the show and they can still drive to a huge range of places to work for someone else in the evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlingmad Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 From a position of absolute ignorance, might it be the Ritz's willingness to book other, smaller-drawing promotions, thus risking diluting the main "product"? Â Such as? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshC Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Marina and the Diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members chokeout Posted August 4, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted August 4, 2016  From a position of absolute ignorance, might it be the Ritz's willingness to book other, smaller-drawing promotions, thus risking diluting the main "product"?  Such as?   Wouldn't describe then as smaller but they had ICW there recently. Not the best having 2 promotions running out of the same venue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Linus Posted August 4, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted August 4, 2016 Yeah, ICW - and by smaller I purely meant their Manchester draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshC Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Have they not only had one show there? Rome wasn't built and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshC Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Also, Progress is obviously going to draw more on a Sunday afternoon when people can travel that day and avoid having to get accommodation and all that. Plus there's no entertainment competition then (outside the football season, at least) compared to a Friday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 I doubt icw running twice a year is the problem for progress. Jim said on Tuesday night job that it's complicated so feels a bigger problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Town Rat Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 (edited) So I'm off to the PTNTL and ENDVR cards tonight and tomorrow night. I work about ten minutes from the Bedford and it's a decent little venue so really looking forward to it. Â How are the PTNTL shows normally? I've seen the ENDVR on demand but didn't know what to expect from the former? Edited August 8, 2016 by Boon Town Rat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleslie92 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 So I'm off to the PTNTL and ENDVR cards tonight and tomorrow night. I work about ten minutes from the Bedford and it's a decent little venue so really looking forward to it.  How are the PTNTL shows normally? I've seen the ENDVR on demand but didn't know what to expect from the former? PTNTL is an unfilmed trainee show. It's a mix of new folk coming out of the training school and more experienced graduates who might be trying new things. Never seen one but I'm told they are a lot of fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshC Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Should be better than SMMRSLM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlingmad Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 What does PTNTL even stand for? Or am I missing the obvious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshC Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Potentially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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