pain-giver Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 Not sure if this has been posted, but heres Zeb Colter and Jack Swagger responding to Glenn Beck: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...p;v=u9_RcD6WMmM I won't spoil anything but I would say its a must watch as its just so out of the ordinary.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Butternut Squash Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 That's fucking terrible. What a soft old cunt Vince is these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted February 23, 2013 Moderators Share Posted February 23, 2013 Dutch Mantel even does that like an amazing promo. Dutch fucking rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-d-d-dAz Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 The invite to Glenn Beck is their way of trying to prove they haven't bottled it, safe in the knowledge he ain't turning up. That video is the evidence they've completely bottled it. I've now lost nearly all my interest in what was the most interesting thing on the show. I know they're all mates, I know it's all entertainment. I want that to be an implicit recognition, though, I don't the two people whose story I'm investing In tell me that. I just don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Joe Joe Jr Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I want this to turn into something huge just so it's discussed on a DVD at some point and Arn has to try and keep kayfabe talking about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reznor Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 That kind of stuff just makes me glad I grew up as a wrestling fan during the era I did. I'd have been gutted having my illusions shattered with something like that as a 10 year old. --- Jack Swagger's really pretty bad isn't he? There's nothing to him. He's still just a random bloke who wrestles. He hasn't changed, is just his usual self, with a lame catchphrase to scream out after Dutch has done the work. No aura. no charisma. no quirks, or any redeeming qualities to command attention form fans/viewers. Why they're persevering with him i'll never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishing1 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Jack Swagger should never talk, his speech impedement ruins any promo You got dutch to talk for you, shut the fuck up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stylin_and_Profilin Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 That kind of stuff just makes me glad I grew up as a wrestling fan during the era I did. I'd have been gutted having my illusions shattered with something like that as a 10 year old. --- Jack Swagger's really pretty bad isn't he? There's nothing to him. He's still just a random bloke who wrestles. He hasn't changed, is just his usual self, with a lame catchphrase to scream out after Dutch has done the work. No aura. no charisma. no quirks, or any redeeming qualities to command attention form fans/viewers. Why they're persevering with him i'll never know. He has grown a fringe and applied a bit of gel. Thats the only change id say!! Dutch's promos have been mustard though; absolute class! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shovanist Pig Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 That kind of stuff just makes me glad I grew up as a wrestling fan during the era I did. I'd have been gutted having my illusions shattered with something like that as a 10 year old. --- Jack Swagger's really pretty bad isn't he? There's nothing to him. He's still just a random bloke who wrestles. He hasn't changed, is just his usual self, with a lame catchphrase to scream out after Dutch has done the work. No aura. no charisma. no quirks, or any redeeming qualities to command attention form fans/viewers. Why they're persevering with him i'll never know. Vince loves the big lads. I'm not much of a Swagger nut but I don't think he's that bad. He does have a bit of talent and can go in the ring and I'm sure he has a bit of aura about him in real life. I think a lot of the time they seem to push these massive blokes because they stand out and have a bit of presence in real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpo Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 "@CMPunk Thankfully that magician just showed the audience how he sawed his assistant in half, so I don't ever have to pay to see it again." Veiled reference to this kayfabe-breaking video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I haven't seen any Glenn Beck rants about this, but surely his issue isn't that he doesn't understand protagonists and antagonists and wrestling being fake... It's that WWE have used his ideology/cult/whatever as the basis for an antagonist when he thinks he's a goodie. Which would make the video a bit pointless. Was interesting to see though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShowOff Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 That's fucking terrible. What a soft old cunt Vince is these days. These days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reznor Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Dutch's promos have been mustard though; absolute class! Aye, and it only makes you wonder why he's featured so little in front of the cameras in wrestling over the past 20 years or so. Someone who's speaks as convincingly as him is pretty valuable, especially in the modern age where guys who can do that are few and far between. Seems a shame that he's been hiding behind the scenes or in Puerto Rico for most of the past few decades. Time looks to have been kind to him too - Cut that 'tache off (not that you would as it's his trademark) and he'd probably pass for mid-40s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted February 24, 2013 Paid Members Share Posted February 24, 2013 In that get-up, haircut and glasses, I thought he looked like Bill Oddie (but with a big moustache). Great speaker - surprised he's never featured to any great degree in TNA programming, given he was their head booker for a notable length of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassicsGuy Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Kayfabe died 20 years ago. Sure, they can try to protect things now, and pretend the past hasn't happened, but the genie is out of the bottle. In the grand scheme of things, Zeb & Swagger revealing their real names/breaking character doesn't affect the business one way or another, either negatively or positively. It's a campy, anti-immigation gimmick anyway; everyone knows it's not real. Plus Swagger's real name had already been publicly revealed by TMZ when he got himself arrested. To be honest, the heels & faces all singing a Christmas carol together last year was probably a bigger challenge to kayfabe than this was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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