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  1. Everything points to it being deliberate imo. The set up; the look of the 'slam'; the camera widening; the skirting around that panel prior to the spot; the fact that they went back up a second time and that it was built as a big spot when it wasn't (relative to what had just gone before it). If the planned finish was in the ring, how was Foley supposed to get back down? In addition, if it was supposed to hold, where was the lawsuit? In that country, with that negligence and with the obvious injury, it would have been inevitable. As would Foley being more than a bit angry at the fuck-up.
  2. In relation, I watched The Rougeaus Vs Rockers from the WWF London 1989 show, and Jacques Rougeau is a fucking treat in that match. His heeling up in that match is superb. Absolutely. Because he was brilliant. And the Fabuous Rougeaus were brilliant. Arguably the benchmark for comical, chickenshit heels. .They could get more entertainment, more value, and more reaction out of 10 minutes of stalling and generally just pissing about without even coming into contact with their opponents than most wrestlers today can get from the onslaught of incessant highspots, choreographed reversals and sequences which typify their matches. Underrated babyfaces too from what I can tell from seeing a limited amount of their earlier Montreal stuff. Their hour long matches with the Rockers have always been a bit of a holy grail for me. None of them probably exist on film but at least there’s loads of Rougeau matches from those type of shows that Richard Land uploads which capture them in their element and is probably the next best thing. From those shows, the Genius is another guy who was great at that sort of hammy schtick too. It’s a simple act really. Mince around, be a prick, cheat like feck and piss the fans off, make them want to see you get your arse handed to you, then duly give them what they want in the most overblown, exaggerated way. It should be easy in theory, but only relatively few heels had the character, attitude, timing and instincts to actually do it well. Sadly, it's a part of American wrestling that's now practically extinct. You look at the insipid, soulless wrestling landscape today and see modern fans more influenced by wrestling from other countries. They're entirely fixated by the moves, workrate and snowflakes at the expense of all the dramatics and pantomine which was such an important part of what made wrestling what it was before the Attitude era came along.
  3. Probably because he'd done so many jobs for the fed he thought he was familiar enough to do it. So yeah, he's thick as fuck. Also, they mention if you ever see Fatu doing the big splash to the outside on a jobber, that means that jobber had done something before hand and the Headshrikers wanted to hurt him. As you'd imagine, that belly splash with no support under you is stiff as fuck. They done that more than once? Nice visual, but not exactly the most soundly thought out idea if that was the reason. Another Headshrinker example was a squash I saw a few years back where Samu murdered a ham'negger with a ghostbuster and he just lay unconscious on the apron for the rest of the match (after being manhandled into that position). You'd assume his lights were out legit if he never moved, yet he appeared to just get left there as the match continued - no bugger even bothered to attend to him. Looked a bit odd.
  4. Oh god thats a day gone! I am intrigued about Taker in SMW. That would have been from their huge Superbowl of Wrestling show, which took place a few weeks before that date. 19/08 would have been the TV airdate of the highlights Despite never airing, the full show is out there on the streaming sites if you can put up with the low res and annoying video counter plastered across the front of the screen. Fantastic show, must be one of, if not the best event in the US outwith the big two during the '90s. Shawn Michaels was on it too.
  5. Man, a lot of fun tag teams being shit on here.... For stables, it has to be the No Limit Soldiers. The absolute worst and pitiful on every level; 1) Obviously they were dreadful to watch for wrestling fans. 2) They were probably the most cringeworthy act ever - basically a rabble of illiterate halfwits squealing 'hooty-hoo'. There couldn't possibly have been any appeal for fans of any age, far less southern hillbilly ones. 3) They had to have been utterly disastrous for business as that arsehole who led them had about two appearances in which he (along with Bischoff) rambled a power of nonsense and was probably paid more for it than most of their wrestlers were for their whole years work. I can barely even remember the members apart from them wasting Rey (although Bischoff had been doing his best at that even before their inception) and to a lesser extent BA. There was a tall one, a fat one, and a musclehead white one - all of whom i'm sure were untrained. Konnan was in amongst them too but he fitted in perfectly. The roided guy used to be all over Worldwide and was only memorable to me for having a dropkick that made even Virgil seem like Jim Brunzell. If you ever wanted an example to highlight just how insane the gulf was at that time and how doomed WCW were, you only had to look at the no limit soldiers. How can you explain why they were ever a thing? The only non-negative thing I can say about them is that at least when they came on, chances were that the West Texas Rednecks wouldn't be far away so there would at least be some fun in the segment, however embarrassing those dribbling idiots were. I guess you could point to the fact that they were short-lived therefore insignifcant in the grand scheme of things compared to teams and factions who stunk up our TVs for years on end, but they were that bad and It really must be stressed that their 'hooty-hoo' bullshit genuinely is about the lamest, most excruciating thing I've ever came across in the world of wrestling.
  6. Well I haven't and it was great, so nice find. Absolute mentalists. Coke or not, Hawk sounds like a complete roaster though. I can imagine loads of folk just tried to dodge him backstage. ----- I've been finished with all current day wrestling for a year or more now, so i'm always looking for stuff from the days when wrestling was good to keep me interested. Right now, if i'm on youtube, chances are i'm on Richard Land's page which is an absolute goldmine, not only of rare matches, but loads of full WWF cards from the mid 80s up to '90 from all the big arenas - with new ones seemingly uploaded on a daily basis. I knew that MSG shows were taped and aired in full up until just after WM8, and that you got the odd match from some of the other big arenas - Boston/Maple Leaf Gardens, Copps, Philly Spectrum & LA Sports Arena... on Prime Time until 89/90, but I had no idea all these aired in full on local networks. They're very cool. Not exactly PPV level matches, but they're not normally phoned in house show non-efforts either. In some ways they're actually better than TV matches as they don't have the same restrictions, there's more crowd interaction etc. Especially when watching the likes of the Fabulous Rougeau Brothers and other such great arsehole heels. I just hope he's still got plenty more of them to put up!
  7. There's every chance. And if he doesn't then at best, he's already consigned himself to an excruciating middle age probably wishing he was dead. He's a moron. You could have had some sympathy for him back in the WWE when it could be argued that the self destruction and trauma he put himself through was a somewhat necessary, if risky, means to an end in terms of career advancement. But in TNA it's not even like there's any purpose to his stunts any more. He's already at the top of that small tree, nobody will see it, and he won't be any better off because of it tomorrow morning than he is this morning.
  8. ...and Boss Man at the last SNME never happened either.
  9. 1991 was amazing, whatever needed to be done to make things succeed wouldn't have been half as much fun as what they did do! Yeah, it's my favourite year. I'm resisting the urge to just wax lyrical at all the stuff I loved and I guess if i'm going to stick my nose in, I should at least contribute something. So I'd have made sure that SNME's continued after the April one. I'd also have run a June PPV; not a KOTR but a Wrestlefest or something as there was loads going on with few outlets for scores to be settled or furthered between WM and Summerslam. The novel and excellent Desert storm match deserved a grander stage than a standard MSG show, Taker/Warrior needed to happen, and the undercard could have been filled with all sorts of cool shit like Dragon/Perfect, Hitman or Piper/Dibiase, Rockers/Nasties, Bossman/Mountie, Jake/Quake etc. I wouldn't change a thing with the main feuds, title reigns or with Rumble and Mania booking (except maybe dropping a couple like Tito/Mountie and Tornado/Bravo). I'd have tried to get Taker and/or Jake into the Summerslam main but otherwise that show is perfect (or at least near perfect - perfect would have required HBK to be fit for the Rockers to replace the Bushwhackers even though that match was fine for what it was). Survivor Series should have had Jake and Savage in to make a 4 v 4 as that 6 man was crap, and they didn't need to be completely kept apart to sell TTIT. I still liked the rest of the show though - even the one with the tag teams which bores the living shit out of everyone else. Jake's character was amazing after the heel turn but he virtually had no matches which was a big disappointment. The Dragon was criminally underused too and that was a big missed opportunity for me, so I'd have rectified things with regards to those two. When you think of all the missed opportunites like all the potential matches those two could have had on TV, I wish the WWF's weekly TV model was closer to WCW's. At the very least, Superstars and Challenge should have had a name v name main event per week. Last but by no means least, I'd have made sure the Coach never existed. Not much could've been done about the following but some random wishlists..... I wished the Bully had hung around longer. And Martel never disappeared after Mania. Would've been nice if Rude could've stayed to follow through with the Bossman feud in late '90 then onwards instead of doing nothing until WCW in October but I guess that was a legal thing. And I wish Andre would have been fit enough to have a real match or two, v Earthquake and maybe Perfect.
  10. The best one he ever done was the one he botched on Paul E. It was practically a fishermans jackhammer. He should totally have tweaked it to be like that all the time, it looked great
  11. Even the plain old in-ring one is an absolutely fantastic move. Easily the best thing he does, a totally worthy finisher and infinitely better than that Style Clash shite.
  12. Any goodwill I had for that Zayn/Owens match (and there was a fair bit of it) was instantly wiped out with that spot. Stuff like that is bad enough under any circumstances, but it was made even worse and more incredible by the fact it was used it to make the heel look all brave and full of heart & fight! My face probably resembled Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino a bit when I witnessed that shit. I really want to like (dislike) Kevin Owens. From what I've seen, outside of the ring he's fantastic as a bad guy, but between the ropes, nonsense like that makes it difficult to take to him. Not that Zayn's blameless either as he either called it or went along with it, and he had a similar spot earlier in the match. It would be nice for a dinosaur like me if they could find a way of eliminating all traces of that indie mindset from these types of guys.
  13. It is. He was really good too. Surprising and disappointing that he appeared to do nothing after the 80s. I don't think I ever saw him again after leaving WCW in 1990. Cracking photo that btw. Can't be too often that you have the opportunity to snap half a dozen nationally recognised wrestlers just hanging around without necessarily any reason for them all being in the same place.
  14. ...Or you're Erik Watts.
  15. I've a token interest in reading about it as the whole cross promotion thing is quite intriguing and unusual, and maybe gives some hints as to who's on the WWE radar That said, modern cruiserweight wrestling is just the absolute worst (generalisation intended) and you couldn't pay me to watch it.. A tournament full of sped-up, characterless, choreographed and overelaborate indie excess is my idea of wrestling hell.