Adam Turner Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I've always thought Chris Benoit was far better in WCW than he ever was in WWE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted January 5, 2016 Author Paid Members Share Posted January 5, 2016 I've always thought Chris Benoit was far better in WCW than he ever was in WWE. Â I think I liked that version of Benoit more because he was more mobile. If you just take the first year or so of his WWF run then I think it's as good but certainly after he came back from injuries gassed to fuck, he was never quite as great consistently. Relied a lot more on chops, punches and kicks. Â The problem with his WCW stuff is there are so few defining matches. The ladder match and the Owen tribute with Bret are the only ones that really stand out to me. Â In fairness, I think that was an issue in WCW overall. Because there were so many matches between name guys every week, things just didn't stand out. WWE has the same problem now. Hundreds and hundreds of 3-4 snowflake matches every year. But hardly any that you remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Benno Posted January 5, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) It's probably keller, no? I mean, he's got to be growing in stature with Austin having him on all the time. I'd be keen to know what the twos subscription numbers are like. Â I too can see Bix doing more and more as time passes. Seems to be quality. Keller is good for analysis if you can hack him but I don't think he's broke a news story in about 5 years. Â Think the answer here that is it would be much more fractured if Meltzer ever goes with the news spread out among the likes of Alvarez, Keller, Mike Johnson and the Twitter people Ian mentioned like Rovert, Bix and the Voices of Wrestling, MLW and LAW type people. Edited January 5, 2016 by Benno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Maverick Posted January 5, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 5, 2016 Benoits feud with Sullivan had some pretty good matches in WCW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted January 5, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 5, 2016 The problem with his WCW stuff is there are so few defining matches. The ladder match and the Owen tribute with Bret are the only ones that really stand out to me. Â Well, there is the much balleyhooed Best of Seven with Booker T, which the WCW fans embraced at the time and WWE tried to force-replicate in 2005. Hilariously Booker got hurt so Benoit had to lose the decisive match to Randy Orton. Â The crazy thing for me is how well remembered the match with Bret from Kansas is, when it isn't even the best match they had with each other. They had a couple on Nitro which were much better and more heated, one in 1998 in particular between Bret turning heel and Benoit getting injured. REALLY heated match, I remember especially the live crowd going nuts when Benoit hit a superplex and again when he briefly applied the Crossface. Let down by lack of a clean finish, which is probably why nobody remembers it. Â Benoit also had a remarkably good match with Curt Hennig in 97 not long after Hennig betrayed the Horsemen. I was desperate for The Crippler to beat the fucker. Plus he had two great matches with DDP in early 98, and probably the best remembered match of the Horsemen final revival, he and Malenko's bruiser with Raven and Saturn. They worked some good ones with Rey and Kidman in the same timeframe too. Â I miss WCW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted January 5, 2016 Author Paid Members Share Posted January 5, 2016 That the tag match at Spring Stampede 1999? That's ace. Don't really remember any of the other stuff standing out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambulance Chaser Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 He had a match with 2 Cold Scorpio early/mid Nineties that I think went the time limit, or there was a winner right on the bell?? I can't check at the moment but I remember liking that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyattSheepMask Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Is that the one that was on the Hard Knocks DVD? From Superbrawl 3? I think Scorpio won that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambulance Chaser Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Is that the one that was on the Hard Knocks DVD? From Superbrawl 3? I think Scorpio won that one  Is that the one that was on the Hard Knocks DVD? From Superbrawl 3? I think Scorpio won that one  Yeah just checked, that is the one I was thinking of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted January 5, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 5, 2016 That the tag match at Spring Stampede 1999? That's ace. Don't really remember any of the other stuff standing out. Â The very same. That tag, Rey/Kidman, Bam Bam/Hak and Nash/Goldberg are all very fun, very different matches that make that card very enjoyable. Juvi v Blitzkrieg gets bummed a lot but there are several botches and there are plenty of better cruiserweight matches from late 98-early 99. Possibly gets remembered as awesome because SUPER JUVI DRIVER!!~! OMG!!1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted January 5, 2016 Author Paid Members Share Posted January 5, 2016 I watched Spring Stampede a few times. I think it was the first official WCW tape I'd bought since the Sting's Squadron vs. Dangerous Alliance wargames. It's a fantastic show. How on earth they could put on shows of that quality and still felt the need to commit suicide in 1999 is anyone's guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Of Swing Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I love google translation sometimes. Taken from njpwworld.  tonight o'clock fucking Korakuen Hall  And Matt Stryker's existence still irritates me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted January 5, 2016 Moderators Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) Benoit's best match in WCW was his first one. A 6 minute sprint against Eddie Guerrero which was absolutely perfect. Â Edited January 5, 2016 by PowerButchi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undefeated Steak Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Thanks for posting that. Reminded me of that Misterio Psychosis match, ones that you can enjoy out of context 20 years later. Makes you wonder which matches from today will be seen the same way 20 years from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanoTheGame Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Little fact I realised earlier; a few months back, there was discussion on here about Edge and Christian being the only two wrestlers to hold the tag titles before both going on to win world titles (in WWE, anyway). It's only just occurred to me that you can now add Reigns and Rollins to that list. If anything, Reigns and Rollins have a bigger claim to the achievement than E+C, as they've both won the big belt and Christian only ever won the Smackdown belt.  Probably boring to most of you but I found it interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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