King Pitcos Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 What are his entrances like on little indie shows now? I'm guessing he still uses the Brood music, but a lot of the impact must be lost without the lighting and pyro. Does he still have the chalice?
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted April 18, 2015 Paid Members Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) He generally just turns up from the entrance way with his cup, but with water in it. Because those white shirts are murder to wash if you get pretend blood on them. Its pretty crap. Edited April 18, 2015 by IANdrewDiceClay
Awards Moderator HarmonicGenerator Posted April 18, 2015 Awards Moderator Posted April 18, 2015 As for what Gangrel was doing in 2000, he was one of the Metal mainstays back when I used to watch it every week. You'd get Gangrel - who, despite it being a z-show, still got the full entrance - Essa Rios, Dean Malenko, Crash doing his 'scared of heights, climb up the turnbuckle then have second thoughts and do an elbow from the bottom rope' gimmick, Lo Down, Jobber Bobby Roode and Just Joe. I miss Metal, Superstars just isn't the same.
spotlightmagnet1 Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 I'm sorry I have sat on this for long enough. I hate AJ Lee. Why the fuck is everyone crowing about her now she's 'retire' (i.e. will turn up in Shimmer or equivalent to cut another 'shoot' promo on how awesome she is and slag off everyone else cause you know, they get over) even WWE.com are still doing lists and videos and tributes to the daft bint, she really was not anything special! Truth be told,I didn't always hate her. When I first saw her in NXT season 3 I quite liked her, and Kaitlyn. Then she became the bland girlfriend of evil Daniel Bryan during the best phase of his career ('I don't know... it just looked so much better on the mannequin') and she got dumped, and I thought maybe they would do a good story of AJ gaining the confidence to confront Bryan and have a great miniseries with some wrestler. Instead she went crazy. That's right, when a woman gets dumped her first instinct is to go doo-lally-tap. Except the way in which she became crazy was to smile and *GASP* tilt her head. She thought being chemically unbalanced and have a crimp in your neck were the same fucking thing. Her promos were grating at best and they decided she should be the GM and control Raw. Then she got with Dolph Ziggler and wasn't too bad to be fair. Dolph and Big E looked the part of a faction designed to get Ziggler over and AJ faded into the supporting role alright. Then she became Divas champion, the first thing she did was run down the Divas talking about how great she was. I wouldn't mind with her slagging off Eva Marie but Natalya isn't a 'real woman' compare to AJ? Does not compute love. Finally, she decided to become the CM Punk of the woman's division, she spent her whole time running down the Divas in various forums, media and on WWE. All while proclaiming to be the better female wrestler. That's fine but come on, both the Bella's have worked hard and look good in the ring, Alicia Fox was the best character driven wrestler in the ring (I love Alicia Fox), Natalya is and always was fantastic, Paige is just gifted as hell , but AJ never put any of these girls over as threats. She poo-pooed them all. Now she's retired, everyone's all sad apparently but was she really that good. OK I'll admit she was decent in the ring, but I still fast forwarded the Divas matches as the character was far too up herself in the ring and if she wasn't in the ring she was on commentating, and she'd be even worse. Never accentuating a rivals strengths and more concerned with telling the world she's the superior person in the world. My personal opinion and against everyone else probably, but I really don't understand how she warrants a week of dedication telling her she's great, especially since she spent the best part of five years doing it to the detriment of others.
King Pitcos Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 I don't think many on here rate AJ Lee, most of us were glad to see her go. She was fucking terrible, and so is Natalya for that matter.
d-d-d-dAz Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 Natalya is the fucking dirt worst. I still remember with great amusement the time she let a sharpshooter go on AJ Lee before she tapped out, and rather than use any wrestling nouse to dig herself out of the hole she created she just stood up, proud as punch (with the smuggest look on her awful face) and just looked at the poor ref like 'you can raise my hand now, peasant'. Fucking useless, she is. Spent far too long believing people when they told her her name entitled her to success, relevance or even a certain level of talent and far too little time actually working at any of those things. She can fuck off now.
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted April 18, 2015 Paid Members Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) Her last name is "Neidhart." Who's been telling her her name entitled her to success? "Stay off the glass dick" would have been the best advice to give to the daughter of James Neidhart. She's a massive success in the sense that she hasn't stolen any jewellery and didnt drug and bum Tyson Kidd. Edited April 18, 2015 by IANdrewDiceClay
d-d-d-dAz Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 Name was probably the wrong word, 'affiliation' would have worked better. Still, she can fuck off.
Paid Members Tommy! Posted April 18, 2015 Paid Members Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) Gangrel is part of what made that time such fun, they put time and effort into something which was there to give body and not be the big finish to a show. He was solid mid card fodder, but some one some where put time and effort into a all round gimmick to get the fans interested. Without the brood i wonder if they would have gotten lost with what to do with edge. On an unrelated note I'd love to hear a story about gangrel scoffing a bag of cheese and onion walkers outside a 24 hour garage if any one has one? Edited April 18, 2015 by Tommy!
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted April 18, 2015 Paid Members Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) Funny you should ask. Had to be about 10 o'clock at night, and out pops David Heath from the Spar. Fangs dripping in cheese and onion, which I've only just realised that lack of kayfabe shown. Vampires hate onions. Imagine if he was working for Watts? I'm aware it might actually only be my household where Vampires hate opinions. My nana always used to bang on about Dracula hating onions for some reason. Edited April 18, 2015 by IANdrewDiceClay
d-d-d-dAz Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) Vampires hate opinions. Fascists, those vampires. Edited April 18, 2015 by d-d-d-dAz
Paid Members herbie747 Posted April 18, 2015 Paid Members Posted April 18, 2015 Was there anything that happened around the time of WM4, considering a huge percentage of the wrestlers on the card seemed to be let go and/or weren't seen again in WWF after that event. Was there a clearout or any other reason for this? I started watching WWF around this time, and I don't recall seeing most of these guys in WWF post-WM4! Seems like quite a high percentage of the roster to almost disappear after one event! All of these guys were on the card, then gone! B. Brian Blair Danny Davis (went back to referee) George Steele Harley Race Hillbilly Jim Jim Powers Sam Houston Sika JYD Ken Patera Bam Bam Bigelow (returned in 1992) Ricky Steamboat (went to WCW) Butch Reed (went to WCW) Tama (aka Sam Fatu) Rick Martel (returned for WM5) Managers: Oliver Humperdink Superstar Billy Graham
Paid Members WWFChilli Posted April 18, 2015 Paid Members Posted April 18, 2015 Was there anything that happened around the time of WM4, considering a huge percentage of the wrestlers on the card seemed to be let go and/or weren't seen again in WWF after that event. Was there a clearout or any other reason for this? I started watching WWF around this time, and I don't recall seeing most of these guys in WWF post-WM4! Seems like quite a high percentage of the roster to almost disappear after one event! All of these guys were on the card, then gone! B. Brian Blair Danny Davis (went back to referee) George Steele Harley Race Hillbilly Jim Jim Powers Sam Houston Sika JYD Ken Patera Bam Bam Bigelow (returned in 1992) Ricky Steamboat (went to WCW) Butch Reed (went to WCW) Tama (aka Sam Fatu) Rick Martel (returned for WM5) Managers: Oliver Humperdink Superstar Billy Graham Blair left in November. Sika left after Mania. Everyone else appeared at either Summerslam or Survivor Series that year baring Bammer who left in the summer and George Steele who became a road agent. Superstar left very early 89. Oh and Tama was gone by June.
Paid Members air_raid Posted April 19, 2015 Paid Members Posted April 19, 2015 Martel was written out of the storyline in the summer when Demolition injured him during a rematch on Superstars. He returned in the '89 Rumble. He was never let go or not under contract during that time, but rather was given time off to look after his sick wife.
Paid Members bAzTNM#1 Posted April 19, 2015 Paid Members Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) Was Gangrel given the best entrance and alround package for a bloke who never made it as a star? That entrance and music was one of the best ever, yet Gangrel is as midcard as you can get during that era. Gangrel has the kind of entrance usually reserved for a top, top guy. It's a great tune, but it was a total ripoff of the "Howling 2" theme by the very underrated Steve Parsons & Babel. Regarding Herbie's post a few posts ago, Hillbilly Jim took a role in the office and was there for years. He popped up in 1989 too when he took John Studd's place and feuded with Andre for a bit. Supposedly one of Vince's best buddies. Did the WWF stop running the "C" and "D" level shows around this time? Edited April 19, 2015 by bAzTNM#1
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