The Truth Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 WRESTLERS vs ZOMBIES. Anyone else heard about this movie? Total B movie but I got to say im looking forward to seeing it. It's starring Roddy Piper and Shane Douglas amongst others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members garynysmon Posted March 31, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted March 31, 2014 I mean how many bonified stars have WWE really created since 2004? Really there's only been Cena, Batista, Orton and Edge and to a lesser extent Punk in the last 10 years. Â Never seen it myself to be honest. Punk would be ahead of Edge in any pecking order in my book anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Dammer Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Punk didn't keep the belt to sell a t shirt. He kept it as the rocks story was that he was coming back to beat the guy one else could get the belt from. Telling the casual audience that rock is Going against a guy who has has the belt for over a year is a bigger sell than, oh he won it back a few weeks ago. Ryback was over because he was a different guy going against punk. He's not good enough for a long term push as he's limited in ring and on mic  Exactly, the Rocks match was set up in July and it was what he specifically wanted. If there were no plans going forward from HITC then Ryback would have gone over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum1993 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I mean how many bonified stars have WWE really created since 2004? Really there's only been Cena, Batista, Orton and Edge and to a lesser extent Punk in the last 10 years. Â Never seen it myself to be honest. Punk would be ahead of Edge in any pecking order in my book anyway. Â I think WWE would put Edge above Punk though. I mean look how many World Titles Edge won compared to Punk. Granted Punk's 434 title reign was probably longer than all of Edge's put together but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted March 31, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) I'd put Edge ahead of Punk at least in terms of recognition. He was in WWF Attitude and had an early Jakks figure with Jeff Jarrett's body on the market. He was around for so long and had all kinds of different peaks in that 15 years. Edge seems to get a lot of respect because he broke through when there was Cena, Batista, Orton, Undertaker, Booker T, Big Show, Mysterio, Kurt Angle, Shawn Michaels, Triple H and loads of others in those main event positions. That was some climate to break through. Â Never been the biggest Edge fan, but Cena was far better after working with him in 2006 than before. That feud was the best thing he'd done up until that point. Edited March 31, 2014 by IANdrewDiceClay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane O' Mac Version 2 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) I think WWE would put Edge above Punk though. I mean look how many World Titles Edge won compared to Punk. Granted Punk's 434 title reign was probably longer than all of Edge's put together but still. Â And then there's all Edge's accomplishments during the Attitude Era with E&C. That spear on Jeff Hardy at WMX7 was a bigger career moment than Punk's reign as WWE Champ where Cena main evented over him for a year. Â Edge has Punk beat before you even compare them as contemporaries. I personally like Punk more, but Edge is the bigger star, especially in WWE's eyes. Punk has a great statistic to his name, it's in the record books, but it's also really easy to overlook in the eyes of the brass and the casuals. Look at how often Bruno Sammartino's name was brought up by WWE before the HOF induction. Edited March 31, 2014 by Shane O' Mac Version 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Sergio Mendacious Posted March 31, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted March 31, 2014 Zeb Colter teasing meeting with the Senate GoP on Twitter? That's a mind-bendingly awesome idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Punk didn't keep the belt to sell a t shirt. He kept it as the rocks story was that he was coming back to beat the guy one else could get the belt from. Telling the casual audience that rock is Going against a guy who has has the belt for over a year is a bigger sell than, oh he won it back a few weeks ago. Ryback was over because he was a different guy going against punk. He's not good enough for a long term push as he's limited in ring and on mic So essentially, what you're saying is that WWE knew two things going into that match: 1. Ryback is dead if he loses here. 2. CM Punk is completely fucking useless and can't draw a dime even against The Rock unless he holds the title for 434 days. And of the two limited, useless-without-megapush performers, they chose to kill the new guy to protect the old one. Which only further supports my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Having Ryback lose wasn't necessarily the problem. All things taken into account, that was the least messy option. The problem was with the fashion he lost. He should have beaten Punk to an inch of his life but there wasn't that oomph there at all. The match felt flat (was there another HIAC or good match on before? I can't remember but am sure there was which deflated the fans). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfMetal Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 There wasn't another HIAC match, but there was a very good World title match between Sheamus and Big Show. The rest of the card was pretty poor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cutting Edge Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 This topic and Punks physique seems to come up every other week these days  Its a shame The Shield didnt debut at Hell in a Cell by cutting through the cell and beating down Ryback, could've been a strong ending to the PPV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Its a shame The Shield didnt debut at Hell in a Cell by cutting through the cell and beating down Ryback, could've been a strong ending to the PPV I think their debut was always planned to be in that triple threat with Ryback, Punk and Cena at Survivor Series as a way of Ryback not winning but still never having been pinned. The death of Ryback in the cell worked out well for The Shield, because if WWE hadn't killed him, he'd probably have given The Shield a right hiding after they cost him the title. As it was, when it came time for him to seek revenge on them, WWE could just go "well he's fucked anyway now, we might as well get these boys over." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted March 31, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted March 31, 2014 I don't think the loss to Punk ruined Ryback. He came out of the TLC PPV that year looking like a million bucks. Â What ruined Ryback was coming out no. 30 in the Royal Rumble and doing nothing of note instead of coming out earlier and eliminating loads of guys. And then the following month doing the job against The Shield at Elimination Chamber...why they didn't make Shaemus do the job I have no fucking clue. Ryback never got his revenge on The Shield which made him look like shit. Then he lost to Mark Henry at Wrestlemania in one of the stupidest and most nonsensical booking decisions I can think of. Then the next night they rushed him into a heel turn he wasn't ready for. The 4 month period is probably a textbook example of how badly booked WWE is these days. They should be fucking ashamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted March 31, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) Ryback's upward mobility died at Hell in a Cell. TLC and Royal Rumble were just diminishing returns. After HIAC they were dragging a rock up the hill to try and get him back to where he was the week before. Ryback was a lightening in a bottle wrestler. You cant get the likes of him back over when he gets hot. You have to protect him. You can get Bryan back in the position he was in, because he's a great wrestler and an underdog. When Ryback got beat via clich Edited March 31, 2014 by IANdrewDiceClay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolann Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 This blokes been at it again  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-25...n-children.html  You dont even need to read the article - its all in the link text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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