Minor news items that don't deserve a thread

[PSF]

I don't think they mean its not a belt, its just that the belt is not what they are competing for, they are competing for a championship of which the belt is a symbol of. It always annoys me when people refer to winning a belt rathar than a championship.

[DCW]

Wade Keller aint happy about the Triple H show.Definitely nothing to do with how HHH slagged him off a few weeks back. Edited September 5, 2013 by DCW

[Loki]

I missed that, what did H say?

[JNLister]

He claimed that Keller always used to slag off DDP, then DDP phoned him up one day and suddenly Keller started writing how great DDP was. Unfortunately it was a completely false story.

[DCW]

From an interview he did with Grantland a few weeks back:

 

Speaking of writers, when do you first remember the Internet becoming a factor? There were dirt sheets before then, but they really blew up on the web. I know you guys pretend you're not listening to it, but come on.

 

When I got into the business, obviously the dirt sheets were there. In my mind, it was like a gossip column. I remember Dallas Page coming in. I used to go to the Power Plant every day just to train with Terry Taylor. Page would come in and he'd be so upset because the dirt sheets were ripping him apart all the time. Especially Wade Keller, who was fucking brutal: "Page is a waste of skin. I don't even know why he has a job there." Stuff like that. Page could do no right and it really bothered him. I would say "What do you care? Who cares what he thinks? Just do what you do, man, and worry about if they're cheering or not." But he'd say to me, "You don't understand, man. Bischoff puts a lot of stock into this." So one day he came in with a dirt sheet and Keller had ripped him up and he got so mad that he went into Jody Hamilton's office and got Wade Keller's phone number. We were all in the office; it was me and Terry Taylor and I think Big Show, and Page called and left Keller this scathing message. A little while later, over the intercom, they say "Page, Wade Keller's on the line." They get on a phone together, and boy, they hit it off. And they're talking and Page is saying, "I just don't understand why you're giving me such a hard time. Yeah, I'm coming into this late, but I try and I work harder than everybody else." From then on Wade Keller was digging Page.

 

He flipped?

 

Completely. I was like, "You just worked the dirt sheet guy!" It blew my mind that these guys don't even really have an honest opinion. There's a lot of guys over the years I've seen put over [in the dirt sheets] and I just didn't get it. But then I realized, those guys give them insider dirt. In the Attitude Era, we'd be on a plane and there'd be four of us traveling in first class or something, and a week later, I'd read the conversation verbatim in the dirt sheets. I'd be like "Fuck, how does that happen?" Because it had to be one of the four of us. I always thought, just do your job. If the crowd reacts to you, positively, negatively, if you're getting a reaction, they're going to push you. That's what nobody gets. We don't tell the fans who's going to be over. We put somebody on the table, fans react, and then we decide where to go with them. What people forget is we have a focus group every single night, 10,000 people somewhere. We didn't get Austin over. Austin got over with the fans.

[IANdrewDiceClay]

Wade Keller and Sean Waltman are having a bit of a lovers tiff on twitter regarding the Triple H storyline.

http://twitter.com/therealxpac

[cleslie92]

I wanted to get your guys' opinions on this.

 

So, at the ICW Edinburgh show they claimed that it was "the fastest selling show in British wrestling history". Now, selling 1000 tickets in the middle of the Fringe outside of your normal market in 2 and a half months is really impressive, but it's not the fastest ever. Progress sold out their latest show in 24 hours, and I'm pretty sure ICW didn't go back and check every single British wrestling show ever to see if they were the fastest.

 

This isn't about having a go at what is a really great company in ICW, but it's more of a general question: why do promotions make shit up that is quite obviously false, when telling the truth is impressive enough?

[IANdrewDiceClay]

Because wrestling isn't real and inflating figures makes you sound more impressive to non-hardcores, and raises your profile outside of the same people that go every week. Never understood anyone who would care about a wrestling company stretching the truth to make themselves look like a bigger deal. I say fuck Progress in the politest possible manner. If they sold it out faster, they should have shouted it from the roof tops.

 

WrestleMania never gets the attendance it says it does. If WrestleMania does legit 80,000, they pump it up to 85,000 to make it sound even better. And it always sounds better.

Edited September 5, 2013 by IANdrewDiceClay

[Arch Stanton]

Why do promotions make shit up that is quite obviously false, when telling the truth is impressive enough?

This is one of the most mental questions that's ever been asked on the forum.

[CTXRussomark]

I wanted to get your guys' opinions on this.

 

So, at the ICW Edinburgh show they claimed that it was "the fastest selling show in British wrestling history". Now, selling 1000 tickets in the middle of the Fringe outside of your normal market in 2 and a half months is really impressive, but it's not the fastest ever. Progress sold out their latest show in 24 hours, and I'm pretty sure ICW didn't go back and check every single British wrestling show ever to see if they were the fastest.

 

This isn't about having a go at what is a really great company in ICW, but it's more of a general question: why do promotions make shit up that is quite obviously false, when telling the truth is impressive enough?

Because the number of people who would know the truth about (or be bothered to investigate) such a claim is miniscule. To everyone else it sounds like an impressive achievement and makes the company sound more successful than they actually are.

 

It's like how 99% of people (including the press) still say WM3 was attended by 93,000 people. If you tell a lie consistently and for long enough it becomes truth.

[windoesnot]

why do promotions make shit up that is quite obviously false, when telling the truth is impressive enough?

 

You do realise pro wrestling has always been one of the most carny trades there is?

[Forrest]

I wanted to get your guys' opinions on this.

 

So, at the ICW Edinburgh show they claimed that it was "the fastest selling show in British wrestling history". Now, selling 1000 tickets in the middle of the Fringe outside of your normal market in 2 and a half months is really impressive, but it's not the fastest ever. Progress sold out their latest show in 24 hours, and I'm pretty sure ICW didn't go back and check every single British wrestling show ever to see if they were the fastest.

 

This isn't about having a go at what is a really great company in ICW, but it's more of a general question: why do promotions make shit up that is quite obviously false, when telling the truth is impressive enough?

 

Now, I'm not Mr. Guinness, so I could be entirely wrong on this whole record thing, but surely the whole point is that they sold ONE THOUSAND tickets in such a short space of time. Progress' event was only 350 capacity, so while Progress may have sold out their run of tickets faster, the small amount negates that because if Progress theoretically were to run a 1000 seater, they wouldn't have sold out as fast as they did. If someone held an event in a venue with 10 seats, and sold all the tickets to their pals on a night out at the pub, would they be entitled to claim they were the "fastest selling show in British Wrestling"?

[Chest Rockwell]

Yes.

[cleslie92]

I wanted to get your guys' opinions on this.

 

So, at the ICW Edinburgh show they claimed that it was "the fastest selling show in British wrestling history". Now, selling 1000 tickets in the middle of the Fringe outside of your normal market in 2 and a half months is really impressive, but it's not the fastest ever. Progress sold out their latest show in 24 hours, and I'm pretty sure ICW didn't go back and check every single British wrestling show ever to see if they were the fastest.

 

This isn't about having a go at what is a really great company in ICW, but it's more of a general question: why do promotions make shit up that is quite obviously false, when telling the truth is impressive enough?

 

Now, I'm not Mr. Guinness, so I could be entirely wrong on this whole record thing, but surely the whole point is that they sold ONE THOUSAND tickets in such a short space of time. Progress' event was only 350 capacity, so while Progress may have sold out their run of tickets faster, the small amount negates that because if Progress theoretically were to run a 1000 seater, they wouldn't have sold out as fast as they did. If someone held an event in a venue with 10 seats, and sold all the tickets to their pals on a night out at the pub, would they be entitled to claim they were the "fastest selling show in British Wrestling"?

 

That's my point though - selling 1000 tickets in just over two months is impressive, but it wasn't the fastest selling in history.

[King Pitcos]

Was it the fastest 1000 seater sell-out? You should write in, and then they can alter the claim like WWE's overlong "Did you know? Raw is the longest-running, highest-rated show on cable television between 1993 and 2013 (that Bob Holly has ever been on)" type brags.