sammorgz Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Yeah I thought it was the point but still, it's strange. I always thought Tony was this beloved character, but it's obvious he's iconic and charismatic rather than universally loved. Â The rape scene was horrific for sure. One of the most uncomfortable things I've ever seen on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awards Moderator Onyx2 Posted August 13, 2015 Awards Moderator Share Posted August 13, 2015 The thing is I (and I assume most people) are screaming at the TV, "Melfi, just tell Tony and his guys will fuck him up!" And then you catch yourself and realise you're advocating some bad vigilante stuff. Supremely clever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammorgz Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 The thing is I (and I assume most people) are screaming at the TV, "Melfi, just tell Tony and his guys will fuck him up!" And then you catch yourself and realise you're advocating some bad vigilante stuff. Supremely clever. Haha yep! I really thought she was going to as well. It's an ace TV show. Can't believe I left it this long to start watching it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbacon85 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 The character you empathise most with is Carmela, and even then sometimes you think "Fuck her, she's just as bad as everyone else with her Porsche Cayenne and rubbing Jeanie Sacramano's nose in it and her trip to Paris" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyattSheepMask Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Did anyone catch Gomorrah last year? I heard great things but have yet to get round to watching it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members stumobir Posted August 13, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted August 13, 2015 Nah, I don't think you're meant to empathise with her at all. Tony points it out quite a few times that she knows exactly where the money comes from and how many people go in the ground so that she can live the life of luxury. Â She's also pretty aware that Tony has his "gumars" but never puts up much of a fight about it. Â She loves being the wife of the boss, it's just not meant to be blatantly obvious.The only guy I ever felt any sympathy for was Bobby Bacala, always seemed like the good guy who ran with the wrong crowd just so he could put food on his kids' plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammorgz Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Nah, I don't think you're meant to empathise with her at all. Tony points it out quite a few times that she knows exactly where the money comes from and how many people go in the ground so that she can live the life of luxury. She's also pretty aware that Tony has his "gumars" but never puts up much of a fight about it. She loves being the wife of the boss, it's just not meant to be blatantly obvious. Â The only guy I ever felt any sympathy for was Bobby Bacala, always seemed like the good guy who ran with the wrong crowd just so he could put food on his kids' plate. Totally agree. I feel no sympathy for Carmella either. Â Bobby seems a good guy. I like Silvio a lot too. He seems more like the voice of reason despite being ruthless when needed. Â It's just a wonderful selection of psychopathic characters though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted August 13, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted August 13, 2015 Yeah fuck Carmela. A total hypocrite and arrogant materialistic self deluded woman. Â Bobby is the only true innocent in it. Maybe Adrianna who got sucked up into it because she's an idiot but genuinely loved Christopher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbacon85 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Yeah, I meant empathise with the most out of all the characters, not complete sympathy. Â What about Artie Bucco? He's just a fucking loser isn't he really? If anything I guess i pitied him more than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members PunkStep Posted August 13, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) I found myself rooting for Tony, in this 'I know he's bad but there's good inside him' kind of way. The mafioso activity I obviously didn't mind, but I wanted him to be true to his wife and family and a be good role model for Christopher. All the way through I was behind him... Â Â ...until he killed Christopher. That did it for me, he truly became a cold-hearted monster then. Fuck him, wanted him dead after that. Â Â Â Edit: Silvio is class, so class in fact that you all should watch Lillyhammer. It's basically Silvio in rural Norway trying to turn the place into a twisted little mob village. Edited August 13, 2015 by PunkStep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members stumobir Posted August 13, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted August 13, 2015 I found myself rooting for Tony, in this 'I know he's bad but there's good inside him' kind of way. The mafioso activity I obviously didn't mind, but I wanted him to be true to his wife and family and a be good role model for Christopher. All the way through I was behind him... Â Â ...until he killed Christopher. That did it for me, he truly became a cold-hearted monster then. Fuck him, wanted him dead after that. Â Â Â Edit: Silvio is class, so class in fact that you all should watch Lillyhammer. It's basically Silvio in rural Norway trying to turn the place into a twisted little mob village. Â My interpretation of it wasn't that he killed him out of cold-heartedness, it was that Christopher was too volatile and too much of a liability to keep around. He was about to promote him to his right hand man but he was completely smacked out his tits during the conversation. Â After he rolled the car Tony noticed Christopher's baby's seat in the back completely mangled from the crash, I think Tony seen it as a "what could have happened" situation and decided to take him out before he done any serious damage to anyone else. Â Â That's what I love about The Sopranos, there's so much left open to the viewers' interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W35ty Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015  The thing is I (and I assume most people) are screaming at the TV, "Melfi, just tell Tony and his guys will fuck him up!" And then you catch yourself and realise you're advocating some bad vigilante stuff. Supremely clever. Haha yep! I really thought she was going to as well. It's an ace TV show. Can't believe I left it this long to start watching it.  Your fortunate that you don't have to go through the feeling of waiting an age between series. I'm sure one gap was 2.5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbacon85 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 It's my favourite show of all time it really is, and I had one mate who was just as in to it as me. Â Remember E4/C4 absolutely fucking about with it in the listings? 11.00pm, 11.30pm etc. Unbelievable. Â Anyway, he was at uni when the final series (not season, I'm not American) aired, and I didn't want to wait for the UK airing date, so I got them all on disc, burnt him a copy, and sent it up to Leeds. Â Now, this is really sad, but we were both so into it, that we synchronised the start of the final ever episode over the phone and then called each other straight away, so that neither one of us knew more than the other. Â Reading that back, that is really, really sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awards Moderator Onyx2 Posted August 14, 2015 Awards Moderator Share Posted August 14, 2015 Edit: Silvio is class, so class in fact that you all should watch Lillyhammer. It's basically Silvio in rural Norway trying to turn the place into a twisted little mob village. And continuing that other thread, they practically cross over into Sopranos at one point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members SpursRiot2012 Posted August 14, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted August 14, 2015 How was season three of Lillyhammer? I enjoyed season one, thought season two was OK but I just haven't gotten around to season three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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