The ‘Gangrela Effect’

[d-d-d-dAz]

On 10/23/2026 at 11:17 AM, Lorne Malvo said:

For years I thought Jericho's Fozzy moniker was Mongoose McQueen. It was only few years ago I was reading a thread on here and realised his name was Moongoose. 

My version rolls off the tongue better anyway. Moongoose McQueen is a right mouthful. 

I didn't believe you and googled it. Madness. Always been Mongoose to me.

[Chris B]

Possibly a long-standing point settled on the latest WrestleMe - or possibly one I'm remembering being a 'no, that didn't actually happen' thing, and it wasn't, so it counts in a different way.

Bob Holly's finisher being renamed the 'Holly-Caust' did happen on a WWE broadcast - it was just on the Over The Edge '99 show, so hardly anyone has gone back to rewatch it. 

[The Reverend]

Wasn't there a thing about the Hart Foundation's finisher being called 'The Heart Attack' but it was never referenced on TV as that? 

[Joe Blog]

10 hours ago, Chris B said:

Possibly a long-standing point settled on the latest WrestleMe - or possibly one I'm remembering being a 'no, that didn't actually happen' thing, and it wasn't, so it counts in a different way.

Bob Holly's finisher being renamed the 'Holly-Caust' did happen on a WWE broadcast - it was just on the Over The Edge '99 show, so hardly anyone has gone back to rewatch it. 

In Bob’s book (which is surprisingly good) he talks about how the name Hollycaust was pitched to him when he started using what became the Alabama Slammer. He talks about how he would never use the Hollycaust name due to sharing a locker room with Kidman and Goldberg etc. 

[BarryOVega]

1 hour ago, Joe Blog said:

In Bob’s book (which is surprisingly good) he talks about how the name Hollycaust was pitched to him when he started using what became the Alabama Slammer. He talks about how he would never use the Hollycaust name due to sharing a locker room with Kidman and Goldberg etc. 

I remember it being called Hollycaust briefly in '99 so when would have shared a locker room with those two by that point?

[TheScarlettChad]

Did Tazz call it The Alabama Slamma? I could've sworn he did once.

[Joe Blog]

29 minutes ago, BarryOVega said:

I remember it being called Hollycaust briefly in '99 so when would have shared a locker room with those two by that point?

He was talking about later in his career when mentioning this, he may be misremembering when the idea to use that name was pitched to him though. 
 

@TheScarlettChad Bob calls it the Alabama Slammer in his book so I just went with what he said.  

[Carbomb]

I thought the Hollycaust was his Falcon Arrow finish, and the Alabama Slam was that over-the-shoulders powerbomb thingy?

[Joe Blog]

Could be that he mixed his finishers up when talking about them. I am absolutely positive that he mentioned Kidman and Goldberg when saying how uncomfortable the name made him feel which only really ties in with the Alabama Slammer finish as he was using the falcon arrow before they arrived. 

[SoloJones]

Off the back of this, I watched a YouTube short of Bob doing the falcon arrow a bunch of times, and one time (as mentioned, at Over The Edge 99) JR says "he calls that the Holly Caust". I'd always assumed that it was a fan-made name or something from a video game, but it definitely didn't last long. They *could* have re-pitched the name to him later on as well, but it's probably him getting his timelines mixed up.

Edit - here's the full context which has audio transcript from the book, and the clip https://www.reddit.com/r/Wrasslin/comments/zbqsv2/im_watching_over_the_edge_1999_and_was_reminded/

Edited Friday at 09:51 AM by SoloJones

[HLSXN]

20 hours ago, Carbomb said:

I thought the Hollycaust was his Falcon Arrow finish, and the Alabama Slam was that over-the-shoulders powerbomb thingy?

I’m sure you’re right & it was Holly himself who commentary referred to as ‘The Alabama Slammer’.

[Fog Dude]

23 hours ago, Carbomb said:

I thought the Hollycaust was his Falcon Arrow finish, and the Alabama Slam was that over-the-shoulders powerbomb thingy?

Yeah, that was my understanding too. And I've specifically only ever heard commentary say "Slam" rather than "Slammer" which would make it sound less like a wrestling move and more like either a prison or a cocktail.

[Statto]

The Alabama Slammer is indeed a cocktail (Southern Comfort, amaretto, sloe gin, orange juice). It's only the 2nd best cocktail to come out of the University of Alabama though, the Yellow Hammer clears (as the kids say). #RollTide

My buddy Beau works for the Alabama Dept of Corrections and my received wisdom is those Alabama slammers ain't nice.

And yes, Bobcore's finish was the Alabama Slam.