Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted December 20, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted December 20, 2018 I was thinking yesterday about @PowerButchi favourite Another Rock 'n Roll Christmas. It struck me that it, along with all of Gary Glitter's other records, have been struck more or less from public consciousness. You don't hear them in-store, on the radio, on TV, they're not on compilation albums and nowhere sells his records now. Yet look at the example of Victor Salva. https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/victor-salva-jeepers-creepers-3-director-paedophile-convicted-child-abuse-a7973676.html Salva is still making movies, his films get theatrical and DVD and streaming releases, are sometimes shown on TV. Even the film, Clownhouse, which featured the then 12 year old actor he was convicted of having abused, is widely available despite actually featuring scenes that could constitute legitimate child abuse. Why do we see one rule for one person and one rule for another when it comes to this sort of thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Kaz Hayashi Posted December 20, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted December 20, 2018 R Kelly I mean, really, what the fuck is going on with all that shit? 21 counts of child porn - acquitted Married 15 year old Aaliyah, but met her when she was 12. Sex Tape & photos of him pissing on an underage girl - found not guilty. Keeping girls locked up in a sex cult. He denies it. Apparently intentionally passed an STD to his partner. He denies it. There was s huge movement to for people to boycott his music. Spotify stated this year they will not promote his music anymore, but wonât censor him. Apple Music and Pandora also announced they will no longer âpromoteâ his music. He then released a 19 minute song in the summer of this year called âI admitâ. Now either he has done none of the above, some of he above or all of the above. He went to court on some of the accusations and was found innocent. The whole thing fucking stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Yeah but he released Trapped In The Closet so that kind of gets him a free pass for anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Kaz Hayashi Posted December 20, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted December 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Keith Houchen said: Yeah but he released Trapped In The Closet so that kind of gets him a free pass for anything. Which part? It was a bit shit from part 24 onwards. Also, if weâre talking about songs that fit the thread criteria, how the fuck has Young Girl by Gary Puckett & the Union not been banned? âYoung girl, get out of my mind, my love for you is way out of line, you better run girl, youâre much too young girlâ.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Sergio Mendacious Posted December 20, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted December 20, 2018 I had thought that Clownhouse was at least out of circulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted December 20, 2018 Author Paid Members Share Posted December 20, 2018 It is, but it's widely available on Amazon and eBay, plus I've seen Google run sponsored ads for listings with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kaz Hayashi said: Which part? It was a bit shit from part 24 onwards. It was shit before that, but the first parts with Omar from The Wire were art. Â Also, stop listening to this after the first verse and it's well paed. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Gus Mears Posted December 20, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted December 20, 2018 @Kaz Hayashi I will be gutted if that goes because it's a fucking brilliant song. That's not even the worst of the lyrics either. "Beneath your perfume and your make-up You're just a baby in disguise And though you know that it's wrong to be Alone with me That come on look is in your eyes" I'd be smashing my hard drive if I was Gary Puckett. Even the name sounds like someone in the local paper who's been discovered wanking round the back of the sheds at a nearby comprehensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members gmoney Posted December 20, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted December 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Kaz Hayashi said: Which part? It was a bit shit from part 24 onwards. Also, if weâre talking about songs that fit the thread criteria, how the fuck has Young Girl by Gary Puckett & the Union not been banned? âYoung girl, get out of my mind, my love for you is way out of line, you better run girl, youâre much too young girlâ.  Part of Gary Puckett's Sex Crime Trilogy along with This Girl Is A Woman Now and Lady Willpower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Kaz Hayashi Posted December 20, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted December 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Keith Houchen said: It was shit before that, but the first parts with Omar from The Wire were art. Itâs absolutely terrible. Itâs hilarious, but terrible from start to finish. A lad up here put the full thing on as his DJ set at a bad taste night. He was dressed up as the world trade centre, strange night. 5 minutes ago, Gus Mears said:  That's not even the worst of the lyrics either. "Beneath your perfume and your make-up You're just a baby in disguise And though you know that it's wrong to be Alone with me That come on look is in your eyes" Itâs not even disguised is it? Just fully out there, brass as fuck. 8 minutes ago, gmoney said: Part of Gary Puckett's Sex Crime Trilogy along with This Girl Is A Woman Now and Lady Willpower Iâll be honest, part 1 of the trilogy is more than enough for me. Is it about the girls development in to adulthood? Fucking hell, this is grim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Cod Eye Posted December 20, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted December 20, 2018 21 minutes ago, Sergio Mendacious said: I had thought that Clownhouse was at least out of circulation. I've got a really old copy of Clownhouse somewhere. Could never bring myself to watch it after hearing about what happened though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Sergio Mendacious Posted December 20, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted December 20, 2018 Fucking love R. Dean Taylor, but this is a bit dodge. "Body of a woman, mind of a child"? Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members PunkStep Posted December 20, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted December 20, 2018 Back to Glitter, Rock N Roll Part 2 still gets played at American sports events doesn't it? Their tolerance levels seem to be a bit different over there, or they are oblivious to who he is and what he's done. Phil Spector-produced music seems to have a pass when it comes to censorship. Probably because they're under the names of the artists, and it'd be harsh for them to suffer for his crimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members garynysmon Posted December 20, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted December 20, 2018 Rock n Roll Christmas is a bit of a guilty pleasure of mine. Easily my favourite Christmas song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted December 20, 2018 Author Paid Members Share Posted December 20, 2018 34 minutes ago, PunkStep said: Back to Glitter, Rock N Roll Part 2 still gets played at American sports events doesn't it? Their tolerance levels seem to be a bit different over there, or they are oblivious to who he is and what he's done. Phil Spector-produced music seems to have a pass when it comes to censorship. Probably because they're under the names of the artists, and it'd be harsh for them to suffer for his crimes. I remember them playing I'm the Leader of the Gang quite a lot during the beach volleyball at the Beijing Olympics as well, but again they probably didn't know who it was. Spector is certainly a different case as well. Because of other artists involved, his crime tend to be passed over. I guess in a similar way to how Salva's films stay (mostly) in print, because it would be punishing those cast and crew involved. Then again, there's the case of Kevin Spacey and the cancellation of Gore, yet Bilionaire Boys Club still got a release. It's all weirdly arbitrary but also complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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