Daaaaaad! Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Yup it's totally different. It's a new club for one as the old one got liquidated. Sigh. Tell that to UEFA and the SFA, then it might have some basis. 'Company' and 'Club' don't have to mean the same thing. Â That said, the shysters are still in place at Ibrox, although it almost seems as though someone's finally gotten around to checking the books and gone 'hey, perhaps we shouldn't be paying all these guys this much money, especially since we're not even a first division team yet'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MungoChutney Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Do UEFA support the theory of it being the same club? If so, why aren't they eligible for a license to play in Europe for 3 years? The SFA's position is based on the findings of Lord Nimmo Smith who has been derided for these by insolvency experts. Â This explains it better than I could. They're a new club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members bAzTNM#1 Posted January 17, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted January 17, 2014 Do UEFA support the theory of it being the same club? If so, why aren't they eligible for a license to play in Europe for 3 years? Company haven't got three full year accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MungoChutney Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Do UEFA support the theory of it being the same club? If so, why aren't they eligible for a license to play in Europe for 3 years? Company haven't got three full year accounts. Â Exactly, because they're a new company. The article I posted points out that all the case law and legal precedents set by other clubs who have been liquidated prior to Rangers doing so have had to start again as new clubs. There is no contingency in insolvency law for the history of a club being an asset that is able to be sold/bought. New company, new club. Â I've also never seen a quote from UEFA that supports that theory and if one exists I'd be interested to see how it was worded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members martyngnr Posted January 17, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted January 17, 2014 Do UEFA support the theory of it being the same club? If so, why aren't they eligible for a license to play in Europe for 3 years? The SFA's position is based on the findings of Lord Nimmo Smith who has been derided for these by insolvency experts. This explains it better than I could. They're a new club.  by JohnBhoy I'm sure that is a thoroughly impartial article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MungoChutney Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Haha. Aye, to be fair it was originally in a Celtic fanzine. It does explain my (Celtic biased) argument far better than I can though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 According to Tam Cowan last night, Henrik Ojamaa was on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members SiMania Posted January 17, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted January 17, 2014 Yup it's totally different. It's a new club for one as the old one got liquidated. Sigh. Tell that to UEFA and the SFA, then it might have some basis. 'Company' and 'Club' don't have to mean the same thing. Â Â In the old Rangers they did mean the same thing. Â The company (wavetower) that owned the club (rangers) didn't go down the pan, it was the club that did, funny how there were all the attempts to save the club (show liquidation the red card etc) that never mentioned the company and the club not meaning the same thing. Where have UEFA said there was a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Bettencourt Posted January 17, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted January 17, 2014 According to Tam Cowan last night, Henrik Ojamaa was on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bydo Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 http://www.uefa.com/...club/index.html  UEFA have awarded Rangers 0.860 co-efficient points based on the season they spent in the third division. More importantly, these points have been added to the existing total earned prior to the start of the 12/13 season.  This comes after rival fans of the club harassed UEFA in an attempt to have Rangers deemed a "new club". By continuing the co-efficient total, UEFA have confirmed that Rangers are the same club formed in 1872, ending any hopes rival fans had of claiming the title "Scotlands most successful club". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cum Doctor Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I can't even begin to describe how much I'm buzzing at the moment. Morton haven't won in their last seven games in the league, and hadn't scored in the last five league games. When that goal went in today, the away end went fucking mental. Absolutely mental. The dugout nearly matched us though. The last minutes were as nerve wracking a time as I've ever had. Â Absolutely buzzing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members bAzTNM#1 Posted January 18, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted January 18, 2014 How can Rangers get "Co-Efficient" points being in the bottom league? I always thought it was points gained in the top league in a country? Â Paul Hartley's just resigned from Alloa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cum Doctor Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Surely can't be a results thing. They're doing well considering it's Alloa he's the manager of. They did get humped today right enough, but they've not been terrible. If it IS a results thing then they're a club with ideas above their station. Hartley will surely be wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Bettencourt Posted January 18, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted January 18, 2014 Back to back promotions from Divisions 3 & 2 without having to spend millions of pounds in wages to do it? Unthinkable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cogitoergozoomo Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 They get the country coefficient added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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