Paid Members Kookoocachu Posted November 7, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted November 7, 2012 I like how the UK is congratulating America for not getting engaged to a wanker whilst then going home to it's own abusive husband and crying in the shower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyincognito Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I like how the UK is congratulating America for not getting engaged to a wanker whilst then going home to it's own abusive husband and crying in the shower. Â To continue your astute analogy unlike America the UK isn't head cheerleader, we're often more akin to the girl with the thick rimmed glasses, 70's crochet sweater and slightly musty smell who considers herself lucky to get what she can. Oh God, we're little Mo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Chest Rockwell Posted November 7, 2012 Moderators Share Posted November 7, 2012 I like how you've expressed a popular sentiment with a poor analogy you probably stole and paraphrased from somewhere else. Â Oh no wait, I don't like it because it was rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Nexus Posted November 7, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted November 7, 2012 I like how the UK is congratulating America for not getting engaged to a wanker whilst then going home to it's own abusive husband and crying in the shower. Â The UK is a shitty little island which has less influence in the world than the people in the country thinks that it does. Â The United States of America is a massive Superpower, which, if they had elected Romney, would've had repercussions for the entire world. Â If the UK elects a cunt, it affects the UK and that's about it. If the USA elects a cunt, it affects the world. That's why we're congratulating America for "not getting engaged to a wanker whilst then going home to it's own abusive husband and crying in the shower." Â Also, the US President is the ultimate authority in their country. David Cameron is not the ultimate authority in the United Kingdom. Â Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Kookoocachu Posted November 7, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted November 7, 2012 I agree and I'm congratulating America too, but I feel like the UK will always kiss ass to the US and be a pawn. If the US had a war happy moron for president, the UK would be more than happy to be a pawn like it did after 9/11. Luckily, they didn't vote in a Moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Nexus Posted November 7, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted November 7, 2012 Which is why we're congratulating them. So I don't really understand why you're saying about abusive husbands and shit. It just makes you look stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Kookoocachu Posted November 7, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted November 7, 2012 Because the UK isn't taking it's own advice. Hopefully they will in the next election but I never imagined we would ever vote for the tories as much as we did and that Nick Clegg would choose them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxyV.2 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 The whole Iraq war 'poodle' issue with Blair is a very tricky one that people simplify too easily. That period of time was incredibly chaotic in politics, and indeed the world. I obviously don't agree with Blair's stance, indeed Bush gave him an out that he didn't have to join them in the invasion, but I'm not sure any PM wouldn't have done that during that olitical time. Â Anyway got away from myself there. Well done to Obama, the only real choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Nick Clegg didn't choose the Tories, the voting public chose the Tories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Ronnie Posted November 7, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted November 7, 2012 If the UK elects a cunt, it affects the UK and that's about it. If the USA elects a cunt, it affects the world. I think the big thing is not only that the POTUS is the most powerful man in the world, but also that the Republican support base would expect of its candidate actions that are degrees more extreme than anything we would have. Â For example, we might say "they both want to cut the deficit". That's true, but I suspect Romney would've been far more extreme in what was cut. Cameron might wish to take action to reform the NHS, but we would still have one on the principle of free at the point of access; Romney would've made sure that there was no form of "socialised" medicine in the USA, obliging people to risk tens of thousands of dollars in costs or insure, even though those with pre-existing conditions (and so most likely to need medical intervention) can be refused insurance; Cameron might be perceived as favouring the rich (via a cut in the higher rate of tax from 50% to 45%); Romney wants a flat rate of 20%. Â Equating Cameron to Romney might, at a stretch, be possible in kind but they're worlds apart in degree and it's infantile for people to suggest it. Â That's without even factoring in the areas where they're very radically different. Romney is anti-science, a creationist who doesn't want the government to fund research. He belongs to a cultish religion. He would've sought to abolish abortion (although he would allow it for incest, rape and danger to the mother). Â It seems to me that Cameron is much closer to Obama than to Romney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Ronnie Posted November 7, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted November 7, 2012 Nick Clegg didn't choose the Tories, the voting public chose the Tories. I can never get my head around what people's expectations would be. Â Should he have: Â a) Refused to form a coalition and left us in a state of not having a government whilst elections were held again and again and again until by attrition one of the parties scored a majority? Â b) Welcomed the offer by the outgoing government to join forces and keep them in office after thirteen years, even though that other party didn't come in first place? Â c) Agree with the principle that if a coalition needs to be formed, then it's more representative of democracy to work in partnership with the party which finished in first place? Â How on earth is c) not obviously the least poor solution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 b) wasn't even an option, as the combined Lib/Labour seats wouldn't have created a majority government. They'd have had to cut deals with the Ulster Unionists and the SNP on every policy individually. Â People's attitudes to the Lib Dems now is extradorinary. Criticise them for reneging on their promise over tuition fees, over their ineptitude on delivering electoral reform, on losing the debate over Green policies. But you can't criticise them for making a government with the Tories, or for holding to the Coalition Agreement that made it possible. Â People should try to imagine what government policy would have been like these last few years with a small Tory majority. If people are smart at the next election, they'll vote to increase the Liberal's share of parliament and increase their influence over future policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted November 7, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted November 7, 2012 I'm over the moon that Obama won. I have an American friend who is currently recieving treatment for spinal cancer and because of Obamacare has been recieving a high level of treatment for free. If Romney won, his "voucher" system would have taken away all her free treatment and her and her whole family would have probably gone into complete poverty and bankruptcy trying to pay for treatment so that, y'know, she doesn't die. Obamacare basically saved her and her family's life so I am glad all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Personally, I voted Liberal Democrat at the last general election. I liked their values and I liked the policies they had- electoral reform, abolition of tuition fees, crack down on tax avoidance. I didn't have a problem with them forming a coalition with the Conservatives, I didn't even have a problem with them having to implement policies I didn't agree with. What I did have a problem with was the likes of Vince Cable and Nick Clegg standing up in the Commons explaining why these policies were right and necessary. Â They should have shown some back bone and stood up for their core values and expressed some sort of resistance. At the very least they should have said 'listen, we don't like it, but this is a Coalition and for this Government to run smoothly we have to treble tuition fees etc.' To me it just seems they have essentially abandoned their principals and the future of their party for a few years of power. Only recently have they started to disagree with some of the policies the Conservatives are trying to push through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I've been watching CNN International's coverage and Richard Quest is the most insufferable bastard ever. Â I'm glad Obama won. Also saw a load of other interesting referendums on things such as Same-Sex Marriages, Abortion, legalising Marijuana and even the Death Penalty to keep an eye out for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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