Loki Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Are all the Dale Farm protesters holding guns to their chins then David? Otherwise, that's just silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 Hey, I'm just posting a photo that was taken at the scene my friend. Make of it what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members ReturnOfTheMack Posted October 19, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted October 19, 2011 Also the guns were cleared of killing Moat a few weeks back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 Also the guns were cleared of killing Moat a few weeks back. Oh, in that case the protesters are fair game then. Zap the fuckers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members ReturnOfTheMack Posted October 19, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted October 19, 2011 (edited) I obviously didnt say that, nor imply that. I dont know why stun guns were used, maybe it was actually needed, you know with the protesters attacking the police and all. Maybe the police are fair game to be attacked but not to defend themselves?   Two protesters have been Tasered and one person arrested in clashes with bailiffs and riot police when the planned eviction of the UK's largest illegal travellers' site got under way. Officers in riot gear entered Dale Farm, near Basildon in Essex, after breaking down a rear fence just after 7am, prompting angry confrontations. The move came as police and bailiffs held discussions, described by supporters as a distraction, at the main gate.  Essex Police said: "Officers have this morning entered the Dale Farm site following intelligence which informed the commanders that anyone entering the site was likely to come up against violence and a serious breach of the peace would occur.  "Intelligence received indicated protesters had stockpiled various items with the intent of using these against bailiffs and police. The first officers on the site were attacked with missiles being thrown, including rocks and liquids. These officers were fully equipped to deal with this situation."  At least 50 officers led the operation to clear the site. Supporters quickly erected barricades inside the site as police held the line, securing the rear area.  Electricity supplies have been cut. Supporters say this has turned off crucial medical equipment belonging to elderly residents. Supporters chanted anti-police slogans and also set fire to a caravan placed across the street inside Dale Farm.  Paramedics were escorted on to the site by supporters to treat resident Nora Egan, who claims she suffered back injuries in a confrontation with police. She said: "This is being led by the police, there is no sign of bailiffs."  Lily Hayes, a human rights observer, said: "Basildon Council are violating the court order by smashing in the walls of a fully legal plot on the Dale Farm site. They are also acting unnecessarily brutally."  Basildon Council leader Tony Ball said: "The premeditated and organised scenes of violence that we have already seen, with protesters throwing rocks and bricks, threatening police with iron bars and setting fire to a caravan, are shocking.  "These are utterly disgraceful scenes and demonstrate the fact some so-called supporters were always intent on violence. Nonetheless we are going to press on with this operation with our partners in a safe, dignified and humane way and will uphold the law." Edited October 19, 2011 by ReturnOfTheMack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Dammer Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Also the guns were cleared of killing Moat a few weeks back. Oh, in that case the protesters are fair game then. Zap the fuckers! Â I would trawl through the riots thread and dig out your posts about the police not being able to use reasonable force but I cant be bothered, double standards and hypocrisy are becoming the norm with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Astro Hollywood Posted October 19, 2011 Moderators Share Posted October 19, 2011 Also the guns were cleared of killing Moat a few weeks back. Oh, in that case the protesters are fair game then. Zap the fuckers! Â I would trawl through the riots thread and dig out your posts about the police not being able to use reasonable force but I cant be bothered, double standards and hypocrisy are becoming the norm with you. Â In before "BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Of Swing Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Also the guns were cleared of killing Moat a few weeks back. Oh, in that case the protesters are fair game then. Zap the fuckers! Â I would trawl through the riots thread and dig out your posts about the police not being able to use reasonable force but I cant be bothered, double standards and hypocrisy are becoming the norm with you. Â In before "BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Also the guns were cleared of killing Moat a few weeks back. Oh, in that case the protesters are fair game then. Zap the fuckers! Â I would trawl through the riots thread and dig out your posts about the police not being able to use reasonable force but I cant be bothered, double standards and hypocrisy are becoming the norm with you. Â In before "BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 Also the guns were cleared of killing Moat a few weeks back. Oh, in that case the protesters are fair game then. Zap the fuckers! I would trawl through the riots thread and dig out your posts about the police not being able to use reasonable force but I cant be bothered, double standards and hypocrisy are becoming the norm with you. In before "BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 The way this is going, one of these protesters is going to die, and it'll be entirely their own fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 The way this is going, one of these protesters is going to die, and it'll be entirely their own fault. Regardless of who's fault it is, once a protester dies (again) at the hands of the police, things will kick of big-time in this country, especially if it's filmed or even televised. The current climate in this country isn't geared towards forgiving the authorities for such things. Â It's also worth considering that the protesters have actually won regardless of this outcome. Once another travelling community beds itself in, will the local authorities be willing to go through all of this again? The protesters more than likely will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Aren't the Police supposed to not help the bailiffs at all and only keep the peace? This looks Police lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 Aren't the Police supposed to not help the bailiffs at all and only keep the peace? This looks Police lead. Yeah. It's being televised as well, with the commentators on Sky News mentioning that very fact. Idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members ReturnOfTheMack Posted October 19, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted October 19, 2011 What happens when the bailiffs arrive? The bailiffs can physically remove you from your home. They can use necessary force to enter the property and can remove anyone living there.  The bailiffs have to act reasonably, and must not use unreasonable force. The locks will normally be changed to ensure you can't get back in. This will happen even if you are not in the property when the bailiffs arrive.  The bailiffs can ask the police to be present if they think you might try to stop them from getting in. The police aren't allowed to help the bailiffs with the eviction but they can attend to prevent any disturbance. The police can arrest anyone who is violent. Your lender's (or freeholder's) solicitor or estate agent will also be present at the eviction, and will then have the keys to the property.  http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/r...by_the_bailiffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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