Paid Members chokeout Posted August 9, 2010 Paid Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 Eh, but surely the BBC are part of the cover-up if they won't air a programme of the cover-up? That's similar to the police investigating themselves. This story has escaped the mainstream media from whatever angle. Part 1- Robert Green talks in Bournemouth  I'm not getting involved in the 'Is this case True or False' stuff but that comment is just stupid. The BBC refusing to air a documentary they cannot backup with facts is not a cover-up, It's common sense. If there is no solid proof or people willing to back up their claims on film then they would be stupid to risk the legal bills they may face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Of Swing Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 (edited) Aye I would presume that airing a doc like that would could leave them well in the legal fireing line. Â Wasn't there a doc in America about child abuse at the hands of people in politics that was actually recorded but never got to TV? Â Does anyone know the real story about that? Â I know its online but cant remember for the life of me what its called. Edited August 9, 2010 by The King Of Swing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members martyngnr Posted August 9, 2010 Paid Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 common sense. The abilty to use this is what separates us from DD and the tinfoil-hat crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 The most distasteful part of this by far, is the involvement of this Robert Green, who seems to have co-opted the Greig's into his paranoid world of conspiracy. That's what I was thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Duane Posted August 9, 2010 Author Share Posted August 9, 2010 (edited) Eh, but surely the BBC are part of the cover-up if they won't air a programme of the cover-up? That's similar to the police investigating themselves. This story has escaped the mainstream media from whatever angle. Part 1- Robert Green talks in Bournemouth  I'm not getting involved in the 'Is this case True or False' stuff but that comment is just stupid. The BBC refusing to air a documentary they cannot backup with facts is not a cover-up, It's common sense. If there is no solid proof or people willing to back up their claims on film then they would be stupid to risk the legal bills they may face Where is the full story on what Loki has said about the BBC though?  No one has said that no one involved won't appear on TV, have they?  Perhaps Loki ought to quote the specifics here.  Anyway I've posted the video of the talk I went to, now it's the evening have a watch and tell me what you reckon afterwards, rather than judging by hearsay. Cheers. Edited August 9, 2010 by Dynamite Duane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members chokeout Posted August 9, 2010 Paid Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 Eh, but surely the BBC are part of the cover-up if they won't air a programme of the cover-up? That's similar to the police investigating themselves. This story has escaped the mainstream media from whatever angle. Part 1- Robert Green talks in Bournemouth  I'm not getting involved in the 'Is this case True or False' stuff but that comment is just stupid. The BBC refusing to air a documentary they cannot backup with facts is not a cover-up, It's common sense. If there is no solid proof or people willing to back up their claims on film then they would be stupid to risk the legal bills they may face Where is the full story on what Loki has said about the BBC though?  No one has said that no one involved won't appear on TV, have they?  Perhaps Loki ought to quote the specifics here.  Anyway I've posted the video of the talk I went to, now it's the evening have a watch and tell me what you reckon afterwards, rather than judging by hearsay. Cheers.  Don't be a prick about it  The term 'The BBC' is a very loose term, more and more of their output is produced by independant companies and bought to be broadcast or part funded by them. I have worked within the media industry since I was 16 and have first hand knowledge that literally thousands of hours of documentaries are filmed every year and never broadcast. This isn't because of a massive cover-up, Its because of normal, non mental things like potential audience, potential legal ramifications, if the story is viable and, more importantly, if it references any on going legal action that may be affected by its broadcast. More importantly you'd be surprised how many documentaries and factual programmes are started and canned before completion because they are not seen as worth completing. I was once involved in 6months worth of filming which followed 5 people, in the end it was edited down to 2 30minute episodes of just one person, with a conservative estimate of 40% of their dialogue edited in some way. This wasnt because of anything sinister, its was for pacing and to avoid legal disputes. Not everything leads to an evil pot of gold at the end of your conspiracy rainbow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Surf Digby Posted August 10, 2010 Paid Members Share Posted August 10, 2010 Okay, I've just watched all 5 parts of the Robert Green video, and I read the website a couple of weeks ago. Â Firstly, what's with the gay-bashing from the guy at the beginning of part 5? "My MP probably won't look into this case, as he's not a normal heterosexual person and so doesn't believe in the things we believe in". Disgraceful. Â Regarding the change in the website. Why would the webmaster change his stance? a) It is a delusional fabrication of the mother, as he infers. b) The mother is maliciously defaming the people in question. c) He's been "got to". d) He's decided that while he's got access to Hollie, he may as well have a go with her aswell, and is now part of the circle. Â B and D are very unlikely. If C were to happen, he would have been tipping people off beforehand, and the current campaigners would be using this as part of their "evidence". Â Watch the video again, and rather than listen to what he says, pay attention to how he says it, including where he builds up to a crescendo and then pauses for applause. He's playing on people's fears and guilt, in much the same way that Charlie and Danny complain that the Government does. "We're at risk everywhere!" cries one lady. Â When they're talking about blacklisting the MPs, they're saying how anyone that doesn't want to get involved in this case "don't care about children". Not that they don't want to get drawn into what it clearly a big legal mess of a situation, but they don't care about children. Not this single child. Children. Plural. Â "There's children in danger right now!", he says early on. "Children are in danger now", says the lady. Don't stop to think, act now! "Hollie was put back with her paedophile father!" Oh no! Shock horror! Except that her father being a paedophile is an unproven allegation. If it can't be proven you are a paedo, then legally you aren't (See the case of: Jackson, Michael J). The lady even tells everyone that their views are already typed up on the new website and just need printing out and handing to the MPs. Yay, the sheeple approach. At one point she's telling people that the evidence is undeniable. She doesn't say why, or what it is, just that it's undeniable. Don't question it though, because children in Scotland are in danger right now! Take the swine flue jab right now! It's untested, so we don't know if it's a)safe, or b)if it works, but you'll die if you don't take it! Â There's lots of "I've heard", "I've been told", "there's no evidence for this", and this is being presented as their proof it's all a cover up. Robert Green gives out lots of information, backing very little of it up with anything. He keeps up the fear though, with talk about criminals on the loose (that have fuck all to do with this case), and such. Â I went into this pretty much on the fence, but the whole Salem witch trial approach to that meeting has actually given me more doubts than it resolved. Â To tie in with David Icke, there was a feature on his visit to Canada some years ago for a book signing. They showed a meeting where they talked about his claims of world leaders being giant lizards, decided that giant lizards was a metaphor for jews, and that most people who have problems with jews were holocaust deniers, so he must be one of those too, and were looking for reasons to block his entry into the country. This meeting reminded me of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted August 10, 2010 Moderators Share Posted August 10, 2010 I've read this thread, and all I can say is:- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted August 10, 2010 Paid Members Share Posted August 10, 2010 Fun fact - Julian Radbourne was involved in a similar campaign on the old TWCF a couple of years ago, if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Snake Plissken Posted August 10, 2010 Paid Members Share Posted August 10, 2010 Fun fact - Julian Radbourne was involved in a similar campaign on the old TWCF a couple of years ago, if I remember correctly. Â I remember that. But I hope that JR doesn't see this or else this will be another thread derailed :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Surf Digby - exactly my feelings on watching those videos. They've only strengthened my opinion on the case, i.e there is no case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Duane Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 (edited) Justice is still being sought. I wrote to my MP last year as did many other individuals, the response being they are aware but don't want to get involved in fear of jeopardizing their political careers it seems, since it'll expose those fellow politicians involved in the cover-up. Â Clearly those not behind this cause have let themselves known in this thread, that is their own choice. I've no interest in hearing from them. However I am interested in hearing from those backing Hollie's cause from different parts of the country who are willing to write to their MP in order to bring them onside. I'm appealing particularly to the fellow parents on the ukff. Anyone wishes to take this action please PM me your email addy and I'll forward you the email to send to your local MP. Â (6mins) Edited February 5, 2011 by Dynamite Duane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringbackwrestling Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Justice is still being sought. I wrote to my MP last year as did many other individuals, the response being they are aware but don't want to get involved in fear of jeopardizing their political careers it seems, since it'll expose those fellow politicians involved in the cover-up. Â Clearly those not behind this cause have let themselves known in this thread, that is their own choice. I've no interest in hearing from them. However I am interested in hearing from those backing Hollie's cause from different parts of the country who are willing to write to their MP in order to bring them onside. I'm appealing particularly to the fellow parents on the ukff. Anyone wishes to take this action please PM me your email addy and I'll forward you the email to send to your local MP. Â (6mins) Â Thats some serious talk there, not sure i like the 'I'm not interested in other peoples views' especially in a case where all the accusations are based on suspicion, speculation. Â What was the response from your MP you never said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members FLips Posted February 5, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted February 5, 2011 Yeah Duane, what did the MP say word for word? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted February 5, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted February 5, 2011 (edited) "Dear Dynamite Duane, Â Please leave me alone. Â Yours sincerely, your MP. Â PS. No, I don't know who did 9/11." Edited February 5, 2011 by Gladstone Small Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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