Paid Members LaGoosh Posted May 10 Paid Members Posted May 10 1 hour ago, wandshogun09 said: Mixed bag but I’d be curious to see how H/Pac and Taker/Shamrock matches hold up in ‘26. They're both awful. Mankind/Show and Snow/Holly are the only other matches worth watching. Everything else is forgettable. The boiler room brawl is pretty good actually and under 10 minutes I think. Quote
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted May 10 Paid Members Posted May 10 I thought as much about Taker vs Shamrock. My fuzzy memories of that aren’t good. Can’t remember shit about Triple H vs X-Pac though and I guess that kind of speaks for itself. If it was any good, I probably would remember something about it. Funny though, Hall and Nash used to always say “if you can’t have a great match with Kid, you’re not gonna cut it”. And there’s Triple H having a forgettable nothing burger with him on PPV. Did Triple H basically kill the Kliq’s run of having really good matches against each other? Pretty much every other combination of the other four members produced at least one banger and there was obviously that killer Shawn/Diesel vs Razor/Kid tag match on Action Zone in 94. Then Designated Driver H comes along and ends the streak. Maybe he should’ve got on the pills like the others. Once again, I guess Bret is proven right. A 4/10 worker. Quote
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted May 10 Paid Members Posted May 10 Picking great workers that Triple H had boring, plodding forgettable matches with is like shooting fish in a barrel. The list is endless. Quote
Paid Members BomberPat Posted May 12 Paid Members Posted May 12 On 5/6/2026 at 4:42 PM, wandshogun09 said: Then they had Austin beat him 123 with the Stunner on Raw before WrestleMania was even done and dusted. Just over a month into the company and they’ve already had Austin slay the giant. Madness. Built right that would’ve been a monster opponent for Austin at SummerSlam or whenever. But no, just spunk it away for free on Raw. The maddest part of all this is that Big Show could easily have been heated back up as a threat for Austin a dozen times over, but after that match they didn't wrestle each other again until Austin's heel run in 2001, and only had two other singles matches, both in 2002, at Insurrextion and on a house show in Glasgow. Quote
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted May 12 Paid Members Posted May 12 My favourite Big Show/Austin thing isn't even a match but a backstage story from before a match. They were booked to main event a house show and Big Show was supposed to go over. When discussing the match with Vince and Austin goes "No one wants to see this big son of a bitch win the match they want to see ol' Stone Cold hit the Stunner and drink a few beers". Big Show is absolutely fuming and Vince calms him down. Later Show sees Austin talking to Vince and they're both laughing, Vince walks over to Big Show and says "Austin is going over tonight". Show is fuming at this point and goes into the match miserable and angry. During the match Austin spends the entire time potato-ing Big Show at every opportunity and barely selling for him at all. Eventually after a match of getting stiffed Austin tries to push Show through the ropes but gives him a huge wedgie. Show loses his shit and grabs Austin by the throat, throws him into the corner and starts wailing on him. Austin just starts laughing and goes "there ya' go kid! Great fire!". Quote
Paid Members Supremo Posted May 22 Paid Members Posted May 22 If Backlash ‘99 is considered the last, “In Your House,” at least we’re going out on a high. Quote
Paid Members Supremo Posted May 26 Paid Members Posted May 26 (edited) On 5/10/2026 at 8:04 PM, wandshogun09 said: I thought as much about Taker vs Shamrock. My fuzzy memories of that aren’t good. Can’t remember shit about Triple H vs X-Pac though and I guess that kind of speaks for itself. If it was any good, I probably would remember something about it. Funny though, Hall and Nash used to always say “if you can’t have a great match with Kid, you’re not gonna cut it”. And there’s Triple H having a forgettable nothing burger with him on PPV. Having just finished Backlash 99, I was coming to post this exact point. The chat around that time was that X-Pac was the testing ground and if you couldn’t have a good match with the Kid then you were worthless. Never a truer example than Hunter’s absolute stinker on this show. The shittest, most boring chore of a match, with him putting on endless submissions to silence, only interrupted by a smattering of, “boring,” chants. Finish is shit, too. Chyna spends the match interfering, so Kane comes out to even the odds, but then randomly just leaves, at which point the odds are back in Hunter’s favour so he just wins. I’m starting to think Kane the character is as thick as Glenn the performer. Fitting that Hunter shat the bed so spectacularly on what ended up being the final, “In Your House,” because it acted as a sort of addendum to the run as a whole. Like a protagonist explaining what we learnt in the final ten minutes of a film. Your final conclusion to your dissertation. Hunter Heart Helmsley is a fucking hack. A psyop. An industry plant. I remember watching CM Punk laughing himself to the ring at this year’s Wrestlemania, with there being a real sense of someone who, “completed,” pro-wrestling. Finally made it to the top via talent, body of work and even realising where he had to play the game, politic, abandon his principles and suck a blood-money-covered dick here or there. By that same point, Triple is an example of someone who can, “complete,” pro-wrestling simply by being the best politician of all time. Based solely on talent, performance and body of work, he’s an absolute joke. No wonder he’s now floundering trying to run the gaff. Man accidentally got important in a job he couldn’t do. If someone without any connections put in this Backlash 99 performance today then they’d be immediately on the bubble for the next round of TKO firings. That Hunter’s made WWF Champion a few months later at Summerslam is laughable. No wonder Stone Cold refused to put him over. And no wonder Mick Foley was once again willing to try and make this prick yet again. That was the other thing coming out of this show. Foley also finished the In Your House era confirming everything we’ve learnt about him. To drag something as fun as the Boiler Room Brawl out of the 1999, out-of-shape, smokes-50-a-day version of Big Show? Miraculous. The perfect blend of wild violence and slapstick comedy. I’m not sure Big Show ever had a better match. Finally, I think it’s during Undertaker vs. Ken Shamrock on this show that we can finally pinpoint exactly when The Undertaker decided he was a hard-as-nails MMA shooter, rather than a magical undead wizard. I wonder if he stole Ken’s gloves after the match. There’s a solid ten minutes where both JR and the King are baffled by Undertaker becoming the Spooky Submission Machine. ”Why isn’t he trying to hit the Chokeslam or the Tombstone, JR?” Because, King! He’s proving how easily he could become the UFC World Heavyweight Champion with such effective submissions that definitely work in a real fight as, “the bow and arrow.” Bet Randy Couture was shitting himself when he saw this. Edited May 26 by Supremo Quote
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted May 26 Paid Members Posted May 26 I think Dead Mark the mark only felt so emboldened to go the ‘I’m a legit hard man’ route at that point because Brian Pillman and Tracy Smothers sadly weren’t around anymore to call him on his bullshit. Surprised he didn’t demand that it be a Lion’s Den match just so he could claim he was undefeated as a cage fighter. Quote
Paid Members Supremo Posted June 3 Paid Members Posted June 3 I was a bit sad finishing Backlash 1999, as these B shows - especially the Attitude Era ones - have proven to be the perfect background viewing to chuck on whilst working from home. I’d planned on blasphemously continuing to watch them despite them no longer being within the In Your House canon and had genuinely forgotten which show came next. Oh. Oh yeah. That one. This isn’t a hot take, but still. It’s wild that Over the Edge 1999 still sits on Netflix with all references to the literal death of a performer edited out. Continuing the show on the night Owen died is one thing. I can’t even imagine the pressure, confusion and downright grief that was happening in real time for everyone involved, even the monsters in charge. But to still have that show available On Demand all these years later absolutely wrecks my head. All that chat about how Owen Hart’s family should let the WWE put him into the Hall of Fame, and the fucking show where he plummets to his death is still pumped out as product. Positively haunting to imagine losing your Dad in the way they did, but the show is still on Netflix because the WWE Universe needs to have access to The Union vs. Corporate Ministry eight man tag, dammit! Quote
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted June 3 Paid Members Posted June 3 (edited) Skip it and go to Fully Loaded 1999 which I remember as a fun show. Edited June 3 by LaGoosh Quote
Cannibal Man Posted June 3 Posted June 3 I just looked at the Fully Loaded 1999 card and it's got that hilarious beginning with the Undertaker throwing Terry Taylor headfirst into a whiteboard ("You understand me, Taylor? YOU UNNERSTAAAAN?" BOSH) and what must be the first, last and only time anybody was ever allowed to make HHH look like a complete and utter arsehole with The Rock's 10 out of 10 pre match promo before the strap match. I must have watched this tape hundreds more times than I realised too. Loved that main event and the way the story ran through the whole event. Quote
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted June 3 Paid Members Posted June 3 Kane tasks an absolutely inexplicably mad looking bump in the match with Big Show too. Quote
jm29195 Posted June 3 Posted June 3 4 hours ago, LaGoosh said: Kane tasks an absolutely inexplicably mad looking bump in the match with Big Show too. Was that the military press to the outside? Bonkers! Quote
Paid Members air_raid Posted June 4 Paid Members Posted June 4 My prevailing memory of Fully Loaded 99, apart from feeling throughout the entire Kane vs Big Show feud that someone was on the cusp of turning heel but they hadn’t figured out who, and utter bemusement that someone decided that feud needed Hardcore Holly, was that X-Pac ended up the deciding factor in a Steve Austin vs Undertaker main event for the WWF title. This felt like such a video game-level random occurrence that I surmised the reason was they were happy that Pac was popular enough and good enough to be inserted into the main event scene. Boy, was I wrong there. Plus, of course, Mr Ass costing The Rock because they had decided he belonged in the main event scene. Boy, were they wrong there. Quote
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted June 4 Paid Members Posted June 4 (edited) Storyline wise it made total sense though, as Undertaker had been battering Pac for weeks and trying to break up him and Kane so Taker could enlist Kane's help against Austin. I was 11 and a huge X-Pac fan so at the time I loved it. It was a cool story, listen to the pops at the end of this: It also lead directly into a fantastic opening angle the following night on Raw: Edited June 4 by LaGoosh Quote
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