Cousin Jim Bob Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 I thought it was interesting Cormier talking about Smiths corner. How they were constantly shouting at him what to do. Just a non stop wall of noise and because theres no crowd he could hear every word so was doing everything they said. Cormier thinks thats why Smith gassed towards the end of the 2nd. Not sure if thats the main reason for him gassing but its an interesting theory. As Brody said above they didn't have a great night anyway, sending him out for the 5th when he was basically telling them he was really fucked up. According to Helwani he had a broken orbital bone, broken nose and two teeth knocked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted May 14, 2020 Author Paid Members Share Posted May 14, 2020 This is probably the closest you’ll ever get to seeing Glover talk bad about someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasty Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 4 hours ago, Cousin Jim Bob said: I thought it was interesting Cormier talking about Smiths corner. How they were constantly shouting at him what to do. Just a non stop wall of noise and because theres no crowd he could hear every word so was doing everything they said. Cormier thinks thats why Smith gassed towards the end of the 2nd. Not sure if thats the main reason for him gassing but its an interesting theory. As Brody said above they didn't have a great night anyway, sending him out for the 5th when he was basically telling them he was really fucked up. According to Helwani he had a broken orbital bone, broken nose and two teeth knocked out. It's definitely an interesting point about Smith's corner. Even if it might not be directly responsible for him gassing so early it can't possibly have helped for them to be constantly yelling instructions at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paid Members ElCece Posted May 14, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted May 14, 2020 Just when I thought Glover couldn't be a more lovely guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted May 15, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted May 15, 2020 Glover is probably the nicest guy in MMA, I love the bloke. Its great fo see him going on this late career run too, one more win and we can legit be talking about a title shot! He's just out-toughing these guys at the moment, takes what they give him then comes on strong, the guys a beast, granite tough. It must have been frightening to go back to your corner after round 2 spend and know you gotta go 3 more with a fresher man who hits as hard as Glover. Thought Smith's corner did him a disservice like most, especially after round 3. The guy was done. OSP looked terrified against Rothwell. The fight was a plodder but the last round was really good. Back to 205 for OSP. Herandez/Dober & Borg/Simon were good fights too. Another good night, highlighted by a brutal main event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted May 15, 2020 Author Paid Members Share Posted May 15, 2020 Did you catch Sherman vs Villanueva @Egg Shen ? If not I’d recommend it. Kelleher vs Azure too while you’re at it. They were probably the two best fights of the night despite the curtain jerk position on the card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted May 15, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted May 15, 2020 nah i skipped over the earlier fights, i was strapped for time 😔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members ColinBollocks Posted May 15, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted May 15, 2020 I thought Smith was looking alright but then he made Glover's eye blow up which seemed to make Glover step up his output (perhaps worried the eye will close soon). I thought there were at least a couple of times the ref should have stopped it. OSP v Rothwell was like WCW sticking Vincent v Van Hammer on Nitro. It was there and filled a spot, but absolutely nothing interesting happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted May 15, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted May 15, 2020 It's a shame, because OSP was on a bit of a run - not of wins, but of being more interesting. I'm always happy to see people turn it around in some way or another instead of getting cut, and it seemed like OSP had finally justified keeping him around. I hope this loss is just because he's not big enough to compete at HW, and he drops back down to LHW. Sure, there's not much going on for him at 205, but now that HW is a non-starter, and the UFC isn't going to start a Cruiserweight or Super-Middleweight division any time soon, it's the only option he really has. Would like to see him bust out some more Von Flue chokes before he calls it a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted May 15, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted May 15, 2020 It was a one off move to test to the waters apparently. OSP is certainly big enough to compete at heavyweight, he just seemed to be having abit of self-doubt in those opening 2 rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted May 15, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Egg Shen said: It was a one off move to test to the waters apparently. OSP is certainly big enough to compete at heavyweight, he just seemed to be having abit of self-doubt in those opening 2 rounds. Fair enough, but if he's losing to Ben Rothwell, it's not a particularly good sign of things to come if he stays at HW. Edited May 15, 2020 by Carbomb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted May 16, 2020 Author Paid Members Share Posted May 16, 2020 Fair play. Although Smith’s corner should absolutely shoulder some of the responsibility as well. It’s the referee’s job to look out for the safety of the fighter and step in when necessary. But it’s as much on the corner to recognise when it’s time to pull their fighter out as well. More in some ways because they know that fighter specifically and the signs and distress signals they might show better than any ref. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted May 16, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted May 16, 2020 Listened to a couple of podcasts that argued that MMA corners need to get past their reluctance to throw in the towel or pull guys out between rounds. Off the top of my head i dont think i can think of one instance where someone was pulled out by the corner. Sure there are some, but i cant recall one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted May 16, 2020 Author Paid Members Share Posted May 16, 2020 The one that jumps out, although it wasn’t stopped in the corner, is when Nick Diaz threw the towel in when Nate got headkicked into the twilight zone by Josh Thomson. But that fight was finishing either way when that kick landed. Nick just stopped it before the ref could. I’m sure there have been corner stoppages but, like you, none are springing to mind. BJ Penn called it himself on the stool against GSP in their second fight, didn’t he? And of course there was Amanda Nunes vs Raquel Pennington which absolutely should’ve been stopped between rounds but Pennington’s corner sent her back out to get fucking bludgeoned. That was one of the worst for me. Especially as she even explicitly told her corner “I’m done” after one of the rounds, only to be told to “change her mindset” and get back out there. Awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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