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BKFC making moves. They've signed 7-0 US Olympic Bronze Medalist Nico Hernandez. Makes a change from the over the hill MMA fighters they've been signing. Hernandez is just 24.ย 

https://www.badlefthook.com/platform/amp/2020/1/7/21055401/nico-hernandez-signs-with-bkfc-makes-bare-knuckle-debut-march-14th-boxing-news?utm_campaign=badlefthook&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&__twitter_impression=true

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Interesting move from both sides. BKFC's motives are obvious - they're like early UFC looking to move out of the SEG era, seeking legitimacy that they hope will free them from the "human cockfighting" perception that it undoubtedly has, not to mention that having younger talent with plenty of career left will make them seem like less of a freakshow or afterthought.

From his perspective, it's a little less clear - looking at his profile, his pro boxing record is 6-0, and quite a few people seem to be high on him. Perhaps he feels that boxing is a "red water" sport with too much competition to stand out, whereas bare knuckle is "blue water", giving him room to stand out and shine (and, obviously, earn money)? Maybe the shorter matches and faster pace are more appealing for his style, and have the added bonus of enabling him to fight more per year? Or perhaps, even, he thinks the skills he picks up from BK will add a dimension to his boxing that no-one else has in mainstream boxing?

Either way, it's got me posting in this thread for the first time to speculate. If an ultra-casual like me who still probably won't watch can nevertheless be intrigued enough to wonder, it's probably had the effect BKFC wanted on more serious combat sports fans.

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10 hours ago, Carbomb said:

Interesting move from both sides. BKFC's motives are obvious - they're like early UFC looking to move out of the SEG era, seeking legitimacy that they hope will free them from the "human cockfighting" perception that it undoubtedly has, not to mention that having younger talent with plenty of career left will make them seem like less of a freakshow or afterthought.

They can do as much as they want, but this will never happen.ย 

Bare-knuckle boxing is never going to see any kind of legitimacy. Ever. It took the UFC making wholesale changes to their business model and working closely with commissions and other authorities to even move them into the fringe sport space that they occupy today.

First of all, anything that has the word "boxing" in the title is going nowhere. Actual boxing promoters get it tight from the mainstream due to head trauma and deaths as it is, there's not a chance in hell that we're going to see things go from the argument that boxing gloves are barely humane in a sport that involves punching each other in the face, to "yeah, let's look at using no gloves at all."

You can bet your bottom dollar that the powers-that-be in the boxing industry will do all they can to keep this kind of shit out of the mainstream for fear of it being even slightly associated with the sport of boxing.

Imagine the hassle and problems the UFC had in trying to get sanctioned, and multiply that by a million. That's what bare-knuckle boxing is facing, and rightly so. It's a fucking monstrosity of a concept reserved for dudes (and women) who are either too old or not good enough to cut it in MMA or actual boxing.ย 

There'll always be places willing to host it, but it'll never be mainstream. It's the lowest of the low, and for an MMA hardcore like me, that's saying something.

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Oh, I've no illusions about that either - I was just speculating on their motivations. But you're right in that they're absolutely deluded if that's the case - BKB is simply a step too far, and it'll never get that kind of legitimacy. MMA stepped into a niche that hadn't been catered for previously, i.e. a sport in which actual martial artists, grapplers and strikers, could compete with each other. BKB is nothing new; it's just a more violent-looking form of boxing.

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hoping to get back on the Bare Knuckle train this weekend after missing a few events. BKFC 11 is Saturday.

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Nico Hernandez vs. Chancey Wilson

Helen Peralta vs. Christine Ferea

Dave Rickles vs. Harris Stephenson

Dakota Cochrane vs. Melvin Guillard

Sam Shewmaker vs. Josh Burns

Cody Carillo vs. Jeremiah Page

Joe Wilk vs. LJ Hermreck

Jake Lindsey vs. Kenny Licea

Josh Neer vs. Ronny Forney

Jacob Akin vs. Miles McDonald

Tons of notable MMA crossover on this one, as well as the debut of Olympic Bronze Medal boxer Nico Hernandez who at 24 and 6-0 as pro boxer is easily the most relevant and unlikely cross over into BKFC. From what ive read its a one off that hes doing because its in his hometown and he's probably getting well compensated.ย 

Dave Rickles debuts too, loved Rickles as an MMA fighter but he never struck me as someone who's style would translate to bare knuckle. Still its Kansas, and Kansas loves Dave Rickles.

Josh Neer there too, if this thing was 10 years ago, Neer would have cleaned up in this.

oh, and there's the ghost of Melvin Guillard on the undercard.

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