Guy Bifkin Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 My recording ended at the start of round 5! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016  I'm sure the result of the co-main will be disputed as well. I scored it 29-28 to Pettis. Round 1 seems to be the point of contention, I scored it for Pettis based on his work being more meaningful. However, it's what you like. Alvarez got his tactics right, and fought really well. I'm not sure where Pettiz goes from here.  Ahh, that's interesting. If I remember correctly, I thought the second round could have gone either way but 1 and 3 were clearly Alvarez's. To the point, actually, where I was gobsmacked that it was even a split decision. It wasn't a glam performance, but credit to Alvarez for executing a gameplan. I'm not particularly excited about seeing him fight anyone going forward, but it's still a big wiin. I can see why you perceived the first round in such a way. All 3 Sherdog writers scored it for Pettis, but a few on social media had it for Alvarez. It was very much a case of what you value .  When it was revealed that Alvarez was the winner, my reaction was akin to losing a coin-flip. It was a situation that I felt could have gone either way, but I could perfectly understand why it hadn't gone the way I wished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted January 18, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 18, 2016 Ahh fuck i completely forgot about this ballsing up a TJ/Faber title fight until i read this thread. Nightmare.  Ben Saunders screwed me out of winning £70 on the prelims, went 2 for 3 on my acca, i always lose by 1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members lambyUK Posted January 18, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 18, 2016 I say do a DJ/Cruz superfight rematch because DJ is a completely different fighter now, then do TJ/Faber in no 1 contender fight as let's be honest, Faber has pretty much fought bums since losing to Barao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theringmaster Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I don't think this will be a very popular opinion but here it goes. I get the feeling Cruz 'got the nod' because of his hard lucky story, 9/10 fights like the Champion keeps the belt but because of the fact Cruz never lost the belt he was given the so called 'Champions prerogative'. If I'm honest I had no idea who won the fight at the end of round 5, my gut told me it was so close to call the belt would remain with TJ, I wasn't surprised when they announced Cruz, it was just to close to call. Â Anybody feel the scoring on the Ross Pearson fight was way off? 2 Judges had him losing all 3 rounds if I recall correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyattSheepMask Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Mitrione's fucking eye! Â He's got a broken orbital and reckons it might have been his last fight as his contract is now up. Â Ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted January 18, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 18, 2016 I say do a DJ/Cruz superfight rematch because DJ is a completely different fighter now, then do TJ/Faber in no 1 contender fight as let's be honest, Faber has pretty much fought bums since losing to Barao. Â On paper, Frankie Saenz seems like a bum, but he wasn't easy at all for Faber to put down, and really brought it. Really entertaining fighter, and looked dangerous on several occasions. Sure, this might be down to Faber being diminished, but I doubt it. Â And Frankie Edgar's not a bum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yakashi Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I don't think this will be a very popular opinion but here it goes. I get the feeling Cruz 'got the nod' because of his hard lucky story, 9/10 fights like the Champion keeps the belt but because of the fact Cruz never lost the belt he was given the so called 'Champions prerogative'. If I'm honest I had no idea who won the fight at the end of round 5, my gut told me it was so close to call the belt would remain with TJ, I wasn't surprised when they announced Cruz, it was just to close to call. Â Anybody feel the scoring on the Ross Pearson fight was way off? 2 Judges had him losing all 3 rounds if I recall correctly I thought Cruz "got the nod" because he won the fight. I know it's all subjective, but it was a clear as day 48-47 win to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members lambyUK Posted January 18, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 18, 2016   I say do a DJ/Cruz superfight rematch because DJ is a completely different fighter now, then do TJ/Faber in no 1 contender fight as let's be honest, Faber has pretty much fought bums since losing to Barao. On paper, Frankie Saenz seems like a bum, but he wasn't easy at all for Faber to put down, and really brought it. Really entertaining fighter, and looked dangerous on several occasions. Sure, this might be down to Faber being diminished, but I doubt it. And Frankie Edgar's not a bum. He fought Frankie Edgar at 145llbs and lost. Who's he really beaten to really warrant a title shot at 135 since losing to Barao? He's only really in line since the division is shallow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted January 18, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 18, 2016    I say do a DJ/Cruz superfight rematch because DJ is a completely different fighter now, then do TJ/Faber in no 1 contender fight as let's be honest, Faber has pretty much fought bums since losing to Barao. On paper, Frankie Saenz seems like a bum, but he wasn't easy at all for Faber to put down, and really brought it. Really entertaining fighter, and looked dangerous on several occasions. Sure, this might be down to Faber being diminished, but I doubt it. And Frankie Edgar's not a bum. He fought Frankie Edgar at 145llbs and lost. Who's he really beaten to really warrant a title shot at 135 since losing to Barao? He's only really in line since the division is shallow. Oh, I agree with that. I was just being pernickety - you didn't say that he's only beaten bums, you said he's only fought them.  That said, I'd still argue Saenz isn't really a bum. He's not a big name, and definitely not champion level, but he's clearly a threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted January 18, 2016 Author Paid Members Share Posted January 18, 2016 My recording ended at the start of round 5! Same here. Absolute wankers. I usually always set whatever the next program is to record just incase it runs long. The one time I forget to do it, this happens. Â Sure, this might be down to Faber being diminished, but I doubt it. I honestly think that's part of it. If you look at Faber's form since the last Barao loss, its not great. He used to always be known, in the UFC, as a guy who came up short in the title fights but would absolutely steamroll everyone below that level. He smashed the likes of Michael McDonald, Scott Jorgensen and Eddie Wineland who were all solid opponents and fringe contenders when he beat them. Since the Barao loss in 2014 though he's made hard work of fights with Alex Caceres, Francisco Rivera and Frankie Saenz. No disrespect to those guys, I'm a big fan of Caceres and Rivera, and Saenz won me over in his performance against Faber. But those guys are at a level where Faber used to dominate. The fact he looked so ordinary against those guys does indicate a decline for me. To be expected really given Faber's in his late 30s as a bantamweight and his longevity in the sport. He's had a good old run. Â Now, that's not to say I wouldn't be interested in seeing him fight Dillashaw or Cruz. I wouldn't favour him against either of them but those are the type of fights I think Faber would really get up for and could bring out the best in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members lambyUK Posted January 18, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 18, 2016 Oh, I agree with that. I was just being pernickety - you didn't say that he's only beaten bums, you said he's only fought them. That said, I'd still argue Saenz isn't really a bum. He's not a big name, and definitely not champion level, but he's clearly a threat. Sorry Carbomb, I should have been clearer. I meant those he's beaten to be considered a number 1 contender. Â I'm not so sure about Saenz. He's a gritty wrestler but he's not paticularly dangerous. Â I think Faber has struggled for motivation with these guys as Wand mentioned, but against Dillashaw and Cruz we will see one last big push from Faber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted January 18, 2016 Author Paid Members Share Posted January 18, 2016 Really disappointed with Pettis vs Alvarez. Totally get why Alvarez fought the way he did, taking the path of least resistance, but purely as a fan it was a lacklustre fight. I was sure this was going to be the show stealer. Â Still, happy to see Alvarez having success. I had him winning 29-28. It was one of those fights though where they both left it close and didn't really put their stamp on the fight. Alvarez has beat Melendez and Pettis back-to-back now but they were both such 'by the skin of his teeth' decisions that it's hard to see him making much of a case for a title shot off those wins. Â As for Pettis, I still want to see him fight Nate Diaz. I know Nate's coming off a win and Pettis is coming off two consecutive losses but whatever, deal with it. Actually, Alvarez vs Diaz could be good as well. I remember Nate going off on one about Melendez getting 'robbed' when he fought Alvarez and Alvarez said some stuff back, so there's kind of some history there already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted January 18, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 18, 2016 Yeh it didnt live upto the hype but there's basically a blueprint to beat Pettis and Alvarez executed it soundly. It was close but the right man won the fight. On paper Alvarez probably deserves the next shot based on who he's beaten but i think they'll have him fight again, Diaz would be perfect. Make that a 5 rounder. Â What a fall from grace for Pettis though. He was the poster boy for the sport a couple of years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members lambyUK Posted January 18, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 18, 2016 What worried me more is that he looks completely gun shy. He looked unwilling to take the risks that once made him great. Â He's completely lost faith is his own ability and seemed too concerned about what his opponent was doing rather than himself. Â RDA should be counting his lucky stars McGregor is moving up as what was once a division with vast amount of challengers is now very limited. Â Cerrone is gone to 170, Edgar to 145, Henderson 170, Khabib always injured, Alvarez unconvincing, and Pettis now looking a shell of himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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