Chris Benoit dead

[Psygnosis]

The Ultimate Warrior will be on Hannity and Colmes tonight at 2am GMT.

What channel will that be on in America? I'm in Orlando at the minute. Or is this a UK only thing?

If you got Fox News Channel over there than it'll be on there at 9pm ET.If not get yourself a TVU Player.

[KrAzY]

The Ultimate Warrior will be on Hannity and Colmes tonight at 2am GMT.

What channel will that be on in America? I'm in Orlando at the minute. Or is this a UK only thing?

FOX News mate

[Surf Digby]

Unsure of the answer here so bombs away. Has the Warrior ever spoken out about steroids in a public setting? What the mainstram media would like would be a big, former star who was a user and is now clean, fit, and healthy, shooting down 'roids. Tonight could be their night.

The only instance that automatically comes to mind is one of his diatribes against HHH, where he referred to him as a "little puffy boy" or something.

[Bring Back Minipops]

The Ultimate Warrior will be on Hannity and Colmes tonight at 2am GMT.

What channel will that be on in America? I'm in Orlando at the minute. Or is this a UK only thing?

If you got Fox News Channel over there than it'll be on there at 9pm ET.If not get yourself a TVU Player.

Balls. Will they repeat it later do you think? Im still at work at 9.

[Psygnosis]

Yeah they repeat at midnight over there I think.

[Loki]

I can just imagine the tact and sensitivity with which Warrior will tackle these tragic events....

[Bring Back Minipops]

thanks a lot

[JNLister]

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?acti...0Q1JPSHcwTVE9PQ

 

Very good piece where a radio interviewer admits he doesn't understand wrestling and genuinely wants to get the story correct.

 

EDIT: And it starts. Italian TV has cancelled Smackdown.

Edited June 29, 2007 by JNLister

[Rob Lowe]

Jericho on Nancy Grace. This seems to be the best mainstream discussion so far, Jericho did a great job.

CNN Headline News' Nancy Grace spent close to 40 minutes covering the Benoit family tragedy last night featuring a panel of former WWF champion Chris Jericho (who came off the best of everyone on the panel and the only one actually concerned with finding out what caused the tragedy), Sports Illustrated senior investigative reporter Louis Fernando Llosa (who at times was asked about factual information and stammered through the appearance, at one point saying he didn't know the timeline), CNN's Law Enforcement Analyst Mike Brooks, Court TV's Jean Casarez and several others.Grace, speaking in a tone and style that sounded more like a wrestling announcer pushing a PPV than that of a serious journalist, opened the show discussing much of the conjecture about "roid rage", Daniel's fragile X syndrome and mixing that with actual factual information. She said police were combing over text messages sent "before and during the murders" and then mentioned the wikipedia posting. Grace mentioned rumors that Benoit himself had been murdered. The truth is, those rumors don't exist, she failed to name a source for any such rumors and they are completely unfounded. Llosa was asked about the DEA raid on Benoit's physician's office and said that they are trying to find out what was actually prescribed to Benoit via computer records. They are trying to find out what and why Benoit was taking. Casarez pointed out that Benoit visited the doctor that day and then he and his family were dead. She said it was believed files and computers were taken. Grace asked if they were files relating to Benoit. At this point, I wanted Casarez to say, "Well, duh" but she simply affirmed Grace's query.Llosa discussed the Internet pharmacies that send prescriptions to individuals online and in many cases (but not this one, according to Llosa) doctors who weren't even actually treating patients were writing prescriptions and advising clients on how to use the drugs properly. Daniel Benoit's condition was asked about the crime scene and he recapped many of the facts already reported by the media. He said the toxicology report and the timeline of the when the family died will be the most important factors going forward in the investigation.Grace said there was "an uproar in the wrestling community at the suggestion that Benoit had used anabolic steroids." To be fair, there's no uproar as I doubt anyone who follows or is part of the business would claim that Benoit never, ever used steroids. The uproar was from WWE claiming that, in their opinion, the evidence didn't match up with the mainstream media's "roid rage" fixation, which is an entirely different subject that Grace instead incorrectly referenced and then glossed over. Susan Moss, listed as "Family Law Attorney & Child Advocate" began screaming that perhaps OJ Simpson isn't the only athlete that should be referred to as "The Juice." She said that it makes no sense that Benoit was loved by his friends and his community that snapped in a big way over a period of several days. "Certainly he may have been depressed, but authorities will have to look at the toxicology to see what the real story is."Professor Marty McCary (name may be misspelled) was brought in to discuss the Fragile X syndrome that Daniel Benoit suffered from. Nancy Grace then introduced Chris Jericho, introducing him as "a name you all know, wrestling superstar and dear friend of Chris Benoit. Jericho was asked for his thoughts on everything he's heard them discuss and how the story has hit him. Jericho said, "It's almost a tale of two cities, a tale of two people. There was the Chris Benoit that had these horrendous acts of extreme psychopathic lunacy in the last couple of days of his life. Then there's the Benoit I myself traveled with, lived with, said I love you to on many occasions - he was my mentor, he was one of my best friends and he was a brother to me in so many ways. The fifteen years I knew him and the two days that he decided to do these horrible horrible acts, it's hard to kind of discern the two and that's why we have to find out what would make a mild-mannered, polite, influential, tremendous person and performer to do such things. Is steroids a reason? I think it goes a lot deeper than that. I think we're seeing a man with some severe psychological, troubled issues that held them in for far too long until everything combined to cause him to snap in such a horrible way." At this point, Jericho was already the best spoken to the entire panel and had put a human face to the tragedy that 99% of the other "representatives of wrestling" who seemed content to get agendas or promote themselves, had in much of the recent cable news coverage. Grace noted that Jericho spent "many, many years" with Benoit and asked him if Benoit ever spoke with him about Daniel's condition. Jericho responded, "No and see, this is why I really wanted to come talk to you, Nancy, and try to explain a little of Chris Benoit the man to some of the people that never heard anything about wrestling and don't know anything about him and the millions of fans and hundreds of co-workers that he influenced in such a positive way and entertained. He was a very quiet man, but not a recluse and not a hermit. Just quiet. He minded his own business but he was always around. If there was a joke, he would laugh and in all of the years I was with him, I never saw anything. If I went nuts and wanted to beat somebody up, he was the guy who would contain me. A lot of people can tell you that and as far as knowing Daniel's condition, it wouldn't surprise me. I'm saying this seriously, if even his parents didn't even know. If Chris had decided he wanted to keep it to himself, you wouldn't have been able to pry it out of him for anything. I don't know anybody - myself or any of his close friends, his co-workers, his boss, who knew or even suspected anything about him having Fragile X. Yet as soon as I read the symptoms of Fragile X, it fit Daniel to a Tee all across the board."Grace asked Jericho in what ways. "The lack of social skills, hard to make eye contact, intense shyness, flapping of the hands- I remember that was one thing I read; ADHD, a very kind of a hyper little guy. Even to the point of his ears being a little bigger, his head was a little bit larger. You don't think much about those things; some kids grow into themselves over the years, but now that you read it, you can kind of see where this all ties in. I remember a few years ago at a Wrestlemania party, my son, who was a year and a half old spoke more and better than Daniel did at four and a half at the time. They were playing and I just thought Dan was like his father, quiet and naturally withdrawn. Now you can see there were indications it was something more than that."Grace asked if the symptoms Jericho described and whether they matched Fragile X. He said many of them do. She then asked if it would lead to stunted growth and he said that it was a tough call to say based on what little they know about Fragile X syndrome. Nancy Grace went to Dr. Bethany Marshall about whether Daniel need special treatment to develop as much as he could. She wanted to know why someone would keep it secret from even his best friends, like Jericho. The doctor said 4% of all homicides include a suicide. She said often men who kill their wives, children, and then themselves have an "extreme personality disorder" and marry normal women. She noted Daniel was about to go to school and that may have caused Benoit to feel that he was exposing Benoit to harm or humiliation. She exposed a theory that men who commit crimes of passion believe their partner is "exposing them to danger, so they expose them to danger." Grace jumped right in, pointing out that by all accounts, "Benoit adored the boy." Grace's response was that Benoit put him in a chokehold and killed him. A caller asked if Benoit had previous legal issues. It was pointed out he had a DWI "early in his life" and then the now well-known divorce papers filed in 2003.Jericho was asked whether Benoit was upset about being demoted to ECW. Important to note here that the night before, Grace asked Bret Hart if Benoit was upset about being demoted from (I kid you not) "The Four Horsemen to Raw". Jericho said that was "such a fabrication" and explained the three WWE brands. He noted Benoit was champion of the Raw brand, then moved to the middle of the Smackdown brand. He said, "To better utilize his talents because he was, across the board, the best wrestler in WWE and anyone will probably tell you that. The move was twofold. One, he was about to become ECW champion. Two, ECW is full of younger guys who are just learning and Chris was just a great trainer and so well respected that they wanted to help train some of these younger guys to help them with their future endeavors. So, to move Chris to ECW, Chris would not see that as a demotion. He would see that as doing his job to help the business and keep it going. The business that he loved. Chris never had a job except for wrestling. He never delivered papers, he never worked in a convenience store. He would have seen this as a honor."Grace said that it sounded as if Benoit was turning into more of a trainer. It's easy to take a swipe at her, but she didn't understand that Jericho meant Benoit was being placed in ECW to help younger performers improve by working against him, which is understandable from a woman who 24 hours ago, thought going to Raw was a demotion. She doesn't have a frame of reference for wrestling, which has actually been something of a weakness for many of those covering the story. Jericho said, "No, he was about to become the ECW champion. A champion is a champion, right?"A caller noted that Benoit was so loved and asked if they were sure it was actually a murder-suicide. Grace said that rumors are flying that Benoit's death was actually a murder. That was news to me. Grace went back to SI's Llosa who said that after speaking to investigators and the District Attorney and nothing has supported that. He said that it's likely they have someone that was upset and possibly on steroids, but they need the toxicology report to truly understand what happened.They ran down a list of wrestlers who died before the age of 65 while discussed drugs in wrestling and their adverse reaction. I have no problem with the media coming in to look at the deaths in wrestling, but it's amazing to see how little effort goes into research when they do so but I guess I shouldn't be surprised. How do you talk about drug deaths as you run the names of Owen Hart (in-ring accident), Adrian Adonis (car accident), Chris Candido (blood clot following surgery), Marianna Komlos (cancer), and Joey Marella (car accident), among others. You can't paint with such a broad brush and expect to be taken seriously. There are issues that need to be addressed but lumping names that have nothing to do with those issues only dilute the point, although the general public wouldn't know any better.Grace said that she doesn't understand the "roid rage" and a doctor explained symptoms of it, including issues with impulse control. It would have been interesting to get Jericho's response to the list but they failed to ask him.They aired clips of Lex Luger discussing the tragedy. I'll refrain from comment.A caller asked about Benoit's other children in Canada. Jericho said that they are doing the best they can to try and deal with it. He said that you have to imagine how they feel losing their father at this age and the way they did. He said he knows they will do well but it's going to be hard.WWE's disclosure that Benoit passed his most recent Wellness test was brought up and a doctor noted that we only know that WWE claimed he passed. While he has a point, I doubt WWE is going to throw that incorrect fact out there. He said that we don't know anything about how WWE collects samples, etc. Well, a little research could have answered that for them, but they didn't take the time.The discussion turned to the text messages Benoit sent then discussed the wikipedia story. Boy, there is a college student in CT who's really scared of a knock on his door today. Grace asked the lawyers assembled if there would be criminal liability if Benoit told someone of the murders and they did nothing. As silly as the wikipedia story is when you realize the inexcusable non-attempt at research, that was a pretty fair question. One said it would be a stretch; there is no requirement by law to be a good Samaritan. Grace asked Jean Casarez if the doctor could be facing criminal charges if he is tied illegally to giving Benoit steroids. Cesarez said she wishes she was representing the doctor and would love to see the search warrant used. Grace rightfully pointed out that wasn't the answer to her question. Cesarez said that Benoit passed a drug test and there's nothing to support the doctor did anything wrong. Well, that would be the point of investigating, to rule that out and discover what he did wrong. Grace said the drug test was four months ago. Uh, April 10th would be 79 days ago, which isn't even three months yet. Susan Moss jumped in saying the doctor would be accessory to murder if the medication led Benoit to snap. Cesarez said that there's no evidence of that. Moss and Cesarez began arguing back and forth although both were trying to say that the facts aren't in yet. I could only imagine what Jericho was thinking as all this unfolded before him. Cesarez asked why we are assuming steroids were a factor and Grace pointed out the house was "full of steroids." Cesarez said that the toxicology could come back clean and said it's possible Daniel was killed by the wife, who "was also a pro wrestler." Cesarez said for "us to vilify Chris Benoit...." Grace cut her off and said, "No one is vilifying Benoit." Under Grace read a graphic that said, "Cops: Wrestler Kills Wife, Son, Then Hangs Self." Grace said, "Benoit was a hero; not just to the wrestling community but to all the charities that he worked with; to all the people he tried to help and this is the choice and as you're screaming about anabolic steroids. According to the police, he killed his wife and his little boy, his mentally handicapped little boy, so if you can sleep better at night thinking he did that cool, calm and collected, then fine but I'd rather think for myself that some reason, he lost his mind."She then said she wanted to go to Jericho because he knows Benoit, "better than us. He's known him for years. They are very dear friends." Grace asked Jericho if he can imagine Benoit doing this cool-headed. Jericho said absolutely not and commented that the argument was, "getting away from the story. Steroids or no steroids, it was still a man who had a very severe problem that no one knew about - maybe his wife did - I don't know, but no one I knew or that Chris talked about had any indication of these tendencies. This is not about steroids, this is not about wrestling; this is about finding out about the mental problems this man had to cause him to snap in such a brutal form. Ilove Chris Benoit. I hate the fact of what he did."Grace said we don't know what happened. The murder victims can't speak and "he killed himself, although there are rumors he was murdered." She said it would would ease her heart to know maybe he was on steroids and "maybe he flipped for a moment" She said that Daniel had a Benoit action figure by his bedside and that he worshipped his father and Benoit worshipped him back."Nancy, that's the dichotomy of this this, that's the problem. Chris loved his children - all three of them. He talked about them constantly and went out of his way to go home, even for a few hours to see his sons, Daniel for sure. That's why you can't comprehend it. Was it steroids? Maybe, but I don't want to hang everything on steroids. He didn't suddenly take a shot of steroids and said, 'I'm going to go crazy.' This is something that had been building in him for many years, obviously to snap like that and go insane and take away the most important thing in his life. I know it, because he told me - all three of his children [were the most important thing.]Grace asked Sports Illustrated senior investigative reporter Louis Fernando Llosa about the chronology of the deaths, trying to discuss a theory that Nancy Benoit killed Daniel first. Llosa said, "I'm not sure. The chronology has changed and shifted in the last three days." Actually, it never has; not even once. Llosa then said he "didn't want to get off the point" and said they really need to take WWE to task, ignoring the fact that he just got completely off the direct question that was asked him. He said they need to instigate rules and regulations for anabolic steroids and human growth hormones. I got the impression Llosa knew nothing about the case and completely deflected the question towards WWE, not even realizing there is a Wellness Policy in place (and admittedly, the merits of which can obviously be debated, but he doesn't even seem to know there is one).Mike Brooks noted that Nancy Benoit couldn't have tied herself up and then asked Jericho's drug testing policy.Jericho said it was a random testing that was held by an independent corporation and said it was a "real, true, stringent drug test that gets results." He said if you are caught, you are fined and suspended (although some just work during that period with pay) and that if they asked Vince McMahon for a list of names suspended in the last six months, he would provide it.That ended the discussion. Quick Thoughts: Of all the guests, Jericho brought a human face to the tragedy and the hardship that many in the business are facing in trying to come to terms with what exactly happened. His comments that this goes beyond steroids and within Benoit's psyche was the voice of reason that has been needed all week from someone inside the business. Llosa added nothing to the conversation (and looked as if he was fighting to stay awake) while many of the experts seemed more involved with arguing over subjects without much in the way of knowledge on them. Grace's comment that no one was trying to vilify Chris Benoit was as ironic as having clips of Lex Luger discussing the tragedy.

Bret Hart and Chyna on Fox news

Fox News' On The Record with Greta Van Susteren covered the Chris Benoit tragedy yesterday. Van Susteren spent the opening moments of the program discussing facts we've already covered on PWInsider.com as well as conjecture stemming from the DEA raid of Chris Benoit's physician's office and the role of steroids.The second segment featured the founder of wikipedia, Jimmy Wales discussing the wikipedia change to Benoit's profile. Wales noted that anyone can edit wikipedia and that after the Benoit story broke they noticed, "That something interesting had happened" and contacted the police. Wales explained that all edits and IPs are traced and while they can't look for the actual person, investigators can get a subpoena for that information. He said his volunteers "wrote a fantastic report" about the situation but it's up to investigators to get further. Wales said there was no glitch to make it appear as if it was posted before the deaths. Van Susteren spent the remainder of the segment discussing basic questions about how often Benoit's profile would have been changed. Wales noted that the person responsible had made several other edits to other wrestling articles, but failed to note the extent of those edits at all (they had been poorly written, explicit comments).Former WWF champion Bret Hart appeared. He said the wikipedia situation was just bizarre and he hopes the authorities figure out who that was. Hart was asked if he knew anyone Benoit had texted that his wife had past and Bret said that he didn't know anyone who he had texted. When asked about the raid on the doctor's office, Bret said it sounds like the doctor was friendly with Chris and his whole family but didn't know enough about the doctor. He said he wouldn't refute that Benoit may have been taking testosterone because his levels were down. Bret said that he, like everyone else, just wants to get to the bottom of this and find out how this happened. Hart was asked about whether steroid use was a problem in wrestling. Hart said that it was a problem in the 1980s during the Hulk Hogan era but not so much during his era, He said WWE adopted a policy that was discarded in 1997 around the time he left the company, but a more stringent policy was adopted after the passing of Eddie Guerrero. He said in the 1980s, steroids were taken by many because it was the only way to stay competitive, the same it would have been in the NFL or the Olympics. Hart said that he was never asked to take them and he felt the best stretch of matches in his career was when he was steroid-free.They brought in Joanie Laurer who said she was tired and sad and disgusted by the entire thing. Laurer rambled, saying that seeing what happens in an industry that has so many red flags and now that it's come to a double murder with a child, she's disgusted. Laurer looked as if she was going to crack at any moment.Laurer was asked about steroid abuse in the company. She said she couldn't say because she was never tested when she was there . The company wasn't testing during that time frame, so she's telling the truth, although if they suspected a performer had a problem, they would ask you to submit to a test and then handle it on a case by case basis. She said they should test everyone for a few months, spend the dollars and see if that's the issue. Laurer seemed completely unaware of the Wellness Policy. Laurer was asked about steroids. She said that she never used them and she doesn't know if there is such a thing as roid rage. She said that she's thought of using them to get a better look but being a female, she didn't want to cause any long-term effects to her body. She rambled through the answer.Laurer said she didn't know Nancy Benoit but Chris was very quiet and very talented in the ring. She said he was "one of the few people who trained in Japan." [While Benoit did train in the New Japan dojos, there are many others who trained there and he wasn't originally trained in Japan, but in Canada by the Harts.] She said he was technically very good and had a very long career, but what, "I didn't know about him was that...here were some issues there and he was, you know, murdered his wife, his child and himself. So, obviously disturbed....violent"Laurer was asked about Vince McMahon and said, "I think Vince McMahon is happy to put his trademark on you and own you on a family-oriented personal level until something happens and then, I don't know, maybe he feels for it or something. I don't think he has taken enough responsibility from what I know of him as a person from working with him, but from what I know of him as a person, he hasn't been a very kind gentleman that deserves my respect, let me tell you that."As you can imagine, Laurer was all over the place, rambling and stammering and not really making any points. She and Bret Hart were night and day.

Geraldo Rivera being an inaccurate twat.

Speaking of Fox, Geraldo Rivera (who as I wrote last night, should be embarrassed by his comments on The O'Reilly Factor last night) appeared on The Morning Show with Mike and Juliet on Fox 5 in New York. Andrew sent the following recap...Geraldo was on, talking about the Benoit tragedy, coincidentally, at the same time I was reading about the article regarding his mistakes on Fox News. He, along with this lady Jeanine Pirro, were immediately biased towards "Roid rage" as the cause. Geraldo also said he was "stocking up on steroids" at his Doctor's, killed his wife on Saturday, and watched Vengeance while texting people. Then after the event, he choked his son and hung himself. He also said that Benoit supposedly texted a WWE official during the event, saying he killed his wife, which, in turn, made the guy edit his Wikipedia page. The only thing that was anywhere near accurate was that he said Sherri, (which he pronounced her last name wrong) died exactly a week before Benoit. I used to think Geraldo was an intelligent person, but after seeing this, I'm starting to have a little bit different a view.Geraldo's claim that Benoit was "watching the PPV" comes from an inference made by celebrity gossip website TMZ.com, which has never been confirmed by any other media source.

Edit - From the hardworking chaps at pwinsider.comI just read about Warrior. Hannity is a complete bastard, Warrior will be a lamb to the slaughter and undo all the constructive work that guys like Jericho and Booker T have done in interviews.I wouldnt be upset if Debra and Chyna vanished either. Chyna was on Larry King a few months ago after Anna Nicole Smith died, due to Chyna becoming 'friends' with her during filming of Illegal Aliens. Of course Chyna wasn't close to her at all and got called out on that very quickly. Moronic Bint, Fuck Off. Edited June 29, 2007 by Rob Lowe

[Finlay]

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?acti...0Q1JPSHcwTVE9PQVery good piece where a radio interviewer admits he doesn't understand wrestling and genuinely wants to get the story correct.EDIT: And it starts. Italian TV has cancelled Smackdown.

Any reason given? I take it Smackdown is on a different channel from RAW or ECW or they would be canning them too.I thought Jericho came across extremely well in that piece. As for Chyna? As soon as she stated she had never taken steroids she acknowledged herself as a moron!!

[freaky]

Bruce Hart is his usual, rational self.From the Toronto Sun:

Chris Benoit was a "delusional juice freak" who chased the dark side and had trouble distinguishing between his fictional character and reality, says the man who started him out in professional wrestling. "The last time I saw him he was in pretty rough shape mentally," said Bruce Hart, son of the legendary Stu Hart. "I didn't know all the details but I knew it wasn't good. I was not at all shocked (by what happened). "If I could see and determine that in a few visits, how the hell could they (World Wrestling Entertainment) not have known something was wrong? (In my opinion) I think the WWE needs to re-evaluate what it is doing here." Hart will not simplify the shocking murder of Benoit's wife and 7-year-old son or the eventual suicide of the wrestler by attributing it only to steroid usage. But he truly believes that steroid abuse, in combination with delusional behaviour, painkillers and failing health -- "almost all the people we started out with (who did steroids) began breaking down around 40," Hart said -- is a deadly cocktail that needs to be further examined. "I've known too many wrestlers who couldn't separate the character they play on television from their real life," said Hart, who has wrestled professionally, promoted wrestling and trained wrestlers all his life. "Wrestlers start believing their press clippings and what is said on television. It's like an actor leaving the set but still playing the part. There's a delusional element to this. I've seen it over and over again. Some people can't separate the character from real life, and Chris was one of those people. "From my experience, that has been quite prevalent with wrestlers and that becomes exacerbated by steroids, drugs, painkillers and failing health." They hadn't seen each other much over the past few years, with Hart still in Calgary and Benoit working the circuit. "We saw each other mostly at funerals," Hart said. "At my brother's (Owen), my dad's, my brother-in-law's (Davey Boy Smith). Not that long ago I was talking to Hillbilly Jim and we were reminiscing a little. I told him I was worried about Chris." While the WWE has a drug-testing policy, Hart believes they should bring in psychologists and physicians to evaluate not only their drug-testing procedures but how they treat their athletes, deal with them, and the toll their gimmicks take on the lives of their performers. "Imagine if Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux and Mark Messier were all dead in their 40s. Imagine what the reaction would be?" Hart asked. "There would be investigations and more investigations. Wouldn't people want to know what happened and why?" Hart was also deeply angered that the WWE aired a three-hour tribute to Benoit on Monday night. "I kept hearing 'He was a nice guy, a great guy' and I knew him when he was a kid. But all I know now is he's a murderer," Hart said. In my opinion, "for them to do a tribute show was disgraceful." Officials at WWE Canada refused to comment yesterday. WWE owner Vince McMahon told NBC Today Show viewers yesterday that "steroids may or may not have had anything to do with this. It's all speculation until the toxicology reports come back." Hart did wonder if Benoit had been given an unfavourable medical report, which may been another factor in his violent behaviour. "A lot of the steroid users start getting liver and kidney problems around the age of 40," Hart said. "There are a lot of wrestlers out there who are dead that you never heard about whose bodies broke down. I've known others who had looming health issues and went a little crazy. Maybe this caused him to go off."

[DarthKillYourself]

"I've known too many wrestlers who couldn't separate the character they play on television from their real life," said Hart, who has wrestled professionally, promoted wrestling and trained wrestlers all his life. "Wrestlers start believing their press clippings and what is said on television. It's like an actor leaving the set but still playing the part. There's a delusional element to this. I've seen it over and over again. Some people can't separate the character from real life, and Chris was one of those people.

Pot kettle black?

[Garrett]

I don't think the Italian station cancelling smackdown is entirely down to the Benoit situation. There was a lot of bad press about various children mimicking wrestling moves and injuring themselves. This was most likely the final straw.

[HentaiLover1994]

Sorry if this has been posted before, but theres too many pages for me to check through.

 

Vince McMahon on Today Show

[Garrett]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2919341

 

Interestingly, Nancy's parents are denying Daniel had fragile x syndrome.