Paid Members Au Posted June 29, 2007 Paid Members Share Posted June 29, 2007 I imagine it's only a matter of time before somebody photoshops that, so Benoit's wearing the "I DID IT," T-shirt they were selling on Shopzone. I'm surprised no one else got there first but, hey, I'm bored on a Friday afternoon.Anyway, I've mostly put off posting in this thread but, believe it or not, I've kept up to date with it throughout the whole week.I first found about it on Monday night, sitting in my back garden after a barbecue just having a few beers with some mates when the text arrived to say that Chris Benoit had been found dead. We were all a bit "wtf?" and then the following text came that it was suspected that he'd killed his wife and son - so even that early on the suspicion was there. This can't have been any later than 1am, so before Raw went on air.I can't say that I'm particularly moved by it. It's pretty horrible that anyone could murder their own child, but it happens. The more we find out, the more possible it seems that that it's not too much of a stretch of the imagination to understand what he could have been going through.I've not really watched wrestling for about 3 years. I follow it pretty closely online but I don't have any emotional involvement in it at all these days.I've loved some of Benoits matches in the past and I'll continue to do so now - I've not lost any respect for him as a performer in the slightest.C'est la vie. I hope they all find peace, whatever that means for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hong Kong Dave Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 I could have done without that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Lowe Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 Perhaps it's because I've got kids, or perhaps it's just because I don't have the same sense of humour as some people, but I think it's pretty sick reading some of the comments made on here making light of the situation. Posting "funny" pictures such as the above is just pathetic too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The British Bushwacker Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 I bought that DVD in HMV yesterday for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurryAngel Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 Perhaps it's because I've got kids, or perhaps it's just because I don't have the same sense of humour as some people, but I think it's pretty sick reading some of the comments made on here making light of the situation. Posting "funny" pictures such as the above is just pathetic too.Some would say that humour and laughter is one of the best ways of coping and getting over such a tragedy. These "funny" photoshop efforts are much the same as those 9/11 ones that were posted recently. Nothing wrong with them, only difference is the 9/11 ones were actually funny. I have seen some amusing Benoit ones but wont link to them due to the offence it seems to cause one or two people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tom Posted June 29, 2007 Paid Members Share Posted June 29, 2007 http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/jb...e/jblblogjune28JBL's BlogBy John "Bradshaw" LayfieldWritten: June 28, 2007I want to say my thoughts and prayers are with all those affected by the horrific events that happened this past weekend with the Benoit family. I have never been this close to a tragedy of this scale, and still have no understanding how this incomprehensible thing could have happened.I knew the family well, and I don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Au Posted June 29, 2007 Paid Members Share Posted June 29, 2007 Perhaps it's because I've got kids, or perhaps it's just because I don't have the same sense of humour as some people, but I think it's pretty sick reading some of the comments made on here making light of the situation. Posting "funny" pictures such as the above is just pathetic too.I think that what it comes down to is the fact that I'm not personally affected by this in the slightest. I don't have kids but I am a godfather and I have been in a longterm relationship where I became a surrogate father to my girlfriends very young child. In both cases, I've watched the children grow up and loved them as the people they are and that they've become. Now, I can't claim to have experienced the parental bond that you only get with having children of your own but I'm trying to establish that I'm not entirely removed from that.Now, step back and look at it. To me, Benoit's just another guy on the street. Sure, maybe he's a guy who's done his best to entertain me and countless others over the years but when it comes down to it, he doesn't affect my life on a daily basis and neither did Nancy or Daniel. If I knew any of these people personally, I'm sure it would be different. But even as a fan, I'm mature enough to detatch myself and see this for what it is - a tragedy to those who knew them but to me and the rest of the world... Meh.I just don't get how or why people are getting so upset about this - it's the same as when Diana died, people seem to have established this emotional attachment to someone they don't even know.I didn't make that image because I thought it'd be funny, or even because I thought it would help me cope better with the situation. I made it because I was bored at work, had Photoshop open anyway and then saw the suggestion on the board and when I saw that no-one else had done it, I figured it'd help me kill half an hour or so before I got to go home.If you take offence, fair enough. But ask yourself why because I really think people are getting worked up over nothing here. Watching that video with Booker T earlier, he mentioned another example where a cop had done something similar. Again, it's a tragedy but are any of you upset about it? Me either. Now go back to your lives, it's Friday night, it's pay day (for a lot of us), go out, get drunk, have an evening in with your significant other, see your mates. Enjoy the life you've got instead of mourning the loss of life they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members JNLister Posted June 29, 2007 Paid Members Share Posted June 29, 2007 This may well get dismissed because Phil Muschnick is a "WWE hater", but it's pretty much bang on: LOOK what it has taken for the news media to finally begin to report that Vince McMahon has been operating a death mill the past 25 years.Look what it took for the news media to finally learn and report that McMahon produces a TV show that regularly features physically fit and soon-to-be dead young men.It didn't take one death, or even 20, for the media to finally wake up. Hell, pro wrestlers have been steadily dying young since the early 1980s, when McMahon began to rule the industry.And it didn't take Monday's suicide of a McMahon-made star, Chris Benoit. It took three deaths in one weekend in one home; it took Benoit's murder of his son and wife for modern pro wrestling to finally be stamped with a skull-and-crossbones caution label.Hell, Brian Pillman died at 35; Louie Spiccoli was 27; Chris Candido was 33. For all the drugs Eddie Guerrero relied on to become one of McMahon's champs, it was miraculous he made it to 38."Ravishing" Rick Rude was 41; "The British Bulldog," Davey Boy Smith, was 39. Curt Henning, "Mr. Perfect," died at 44. "Road Warrior Hawk" made it to 45, which can be like 85 in pro-wrestling years.Given cartoon names, they were real people. They are among the most renowned pro wrestlers who died young - just since 1995. There are dozens more from where they came from, and wound up. None of their deaths made for big, nationwide news.Uppers in the morning, painkillers at night, juice in between to sustain those massive physiques, the kind the industry has demanded and rewarded since McMahon took over. That's the regimen. You wanna be a TV star, don't you?But the media only went for the fun stuff, helping McMahon promote "Wrestlemania" or Donald Trump's made-for-pay-per-view feud with McMahon.Until Monday, and since McMahon became king, pro-wrestling deaths would occur only one at a time. No big deal. If you've ignored one, you can ignore them all. Even during the drug trial that led to the conviction and imprisonment of the WWE's McMahon-appointed doctor, McMahon, himself a former steroid user, escaped media inspection.Until this week, the only sudden, premature death of a pro wrestler that caused a national stir came in 1999, when Owen Hart died what in pro wrestling relativity constituted a natural death. He didn't drop dead; he was dropped dead, from the rafters in a pay-per-view skit-too-far.Hart's death made big news. For two days. Sure, it did. He died a spectacular, public death. Wrestlers dying in a hotel room, prescription bottles on the night table, don't make noise or news, even if the deceased did perform on TV the night before.But there was no ducking this one. Benoit, 40, wasn't just a current, excessively muscled WWE star; he didn't die solo. He also killed his wife and kid. Three deaths at once; that's tough to ignore. And steroids were found. Naturally.So this one made news. And, for the first time, the news media began to note a pattern: Pro wrestlers do drugs, go crazy and die young. Well, whattya know.Monday night, in the midst of a plot in which he was supposed to have been murdered, McMahon knew exactly what to do. He replaced that night's USA Network show with a Benoit memorial. McMahon's best ratings have been generated by tribute shows following the sudden, real deaths of his performers. He cashes in on these guys coming and going.And aside from a news media that are just now waking up to McMahon - in addition to the deaths, his WWE TV shows rely on fringe pornography that's in large part aimed at kids and teens - McMahon has long been enabled by friends in very high places.Lowell Weicker, a former governor and senator from Connecticut, where the WWE is headquartered, is a major WWE stockholder and sits on its board of directors. Weicker also serves as president of the board of Trust for America's Health, a health policy research group. Hmmm.Then there's Dick Ebersol, head of NBC and USA Network sports, who has long been in McMahon's corner, both as a business partner and buddy. It was Ebersol who turned NBC over to McMahon in the form of the XFL, an obscene blend of pro football and WWE that also died young, but from embarrassment.Joe Lieberman, the senator from Connecticut who has famously targeted the entertainment industry for its reliance on garbage - especially when thrown at kids - helped fund his last campaign with donations from the McMahon family.Then there are big shots such as Trump, happy to throw in with McMahon for all the attention they can generate together.When Congress subpoenas MLB about steroids, that's huge news, as it should be. But imagine if every season four or five big-league players died drug-related, performance-related and institution-related deaths. Well, it happens in pro wrestling.Imagine if there were a long-running, scripted TV series in which recurring characters kept dropping dead, for real, in their 20s, 30s and 40s. That would be the most scandalous story in TV history. But it has been happening in pro wrestling.Pro wrestling manufactures death. And the guy who owns and operates the biggest factory, the boss who sets the standards, is Vince McMahon. And, though it took 25 years and the deaths this week of Chris Benoit, his wife and son, the media are finally beginning to notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Craiging619 Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 This may well get dismissed because Phil Muschnick is a "WWE hater", but it's pretty much bang on: Monday night, in the midst of a plot in which he was supposed to have been murdered, McMahon knew exactly what to do. He replaced that night's USA Network show with a Benoit memorial. McMahon's best ratings have been generated by tribute shows following the sudden, real deaths of his performers. He cashes in on these guys coming and going. Bang on until that part. I think I'm right in saying both Eddie's tribute shows did fairly normal ratings, and were dwarfed by late 1990's RAW and 1980's SNME. I think he just exposed himself with that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Psygnosis Posted June 29, 2007 Paid Members Share Posted June 29, 2007 The Ultimate Warrior will be on Hannity and Colmes tonight at 2am GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vito Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 The Ultimate Warrior will be on Hannity and Colmes tonight at 2am GMT.Oh Christ. I can see this being a real carcrash moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Stevie C Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 The Ultimate Warrior will be on Hannity and Colmes tonight at 2am GMT.It's all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Minipops Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 The Ultimate Warrior will be on Hannity and Colmes tonight at 2am GMT.What channel will that be on in America? I'm in Orlando at the minute. Or is this a UK only thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 Unsure of the answer here so bombs away. Has the Warrior ever spoken out about steroids in a public setting? What the mainstram media would like would be a big, former star who was a user and is now clean, fit, and healthy, shooting down 'roids. Tonight could be their night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrAzY Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 The Ultimate Warrior will be on Hannity and Colmes tonight at 2am GMT.Whats that got to do with benoit?it will be fun hearing a warrior political mouth-off though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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