Tim Healys Chutney Spoon Posted October 5, 2022 Posted October 5, 2022 If it goes ahead it'll be an unsanctioned fight. Lights out match anyone? Quote
Tim Healys Chutney Spoon Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 Eddie Hearn seems to have suggested it's completely off now. Something along the lines of 'fight won't happen under a different board or in a different country. Lets see what today brings'. Â Â Quote
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted October 6, 2022 Author Paid Members Posted October 6, 2022 Yeah looks like it’s actually off.  Quote
Tim Healys Chutney Spoon Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/63158856 Â Yep it's off. Quote
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted October 6, 2022 Paid Members Posted October 6, 2022 An absolute shit show of epic proportions. What a hit for Matchroom and the sport in general. Quote
David Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 That's the risk they run when they bring in these drug testing companies who will flag a fighter for not just actual fight-changing performance enhancing drugs, but also something as relatively insignificant as clomifene. What's also shocking is that the positive test was flagged in August! They had a whole month to cancel the fight, but they instead kept quiet and allowed fans to book tickets, trains, hotels, take time off work and all sorts. A disgrace. Quote
Members SuperBacon Posted October 6, 2022 Members Posted October 6, 2022 1 hour ago, David said: That's the risk they run when they bring in these drug testing companies who will flag a fighter for not just actual fight-changing performance enhancing drugs, but also something as relatively insignificant as clomifene. What's also shocking is that the positive test was flagged in August! They had a whole month to cancel the fight, but they instead kept quiet and allowed fans to book tickets, trains, hotels, take time off work and all sorts. A disgrace. Isn't something like Clomifene, which can artificially raise testosterone levels, by that very definition a performance enhancing drug? Quote
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted October 7, 2022 Paid Members Posted October 7, 2022 10 hours ago, David said: That's the risk they run when they bring in these drug testing companies who will flag a fighter for not just actual fight-changing performance enhancing drugs, but also something as relatively insignificant as clomifene. What's also shocking is that the positive test was flagged in August! They had a whole month to cancel the fight, but they instead kept quiet and allowed fans to book tickets, trains, hotels, take time off work and all sorts. A disgrace.  As for the second point there, that's the one i'm not quite understanding. It sounds like the test flagged earlier, everybody knew but were happy to proceed, including the British Boxing Board of Control. The reason the board changed their mind was because the Daily Mail unearthed the test finding and printed it, pressure was put on the board and they were forced to pull their sanctioning of the bout. The fight would no doubt have still gone ahead under a different sanctioning body as Benn isn't suspended, but the amount of backlash againt the event going ahead (and probably rightly so) was massive and they were left with no choice but to pull it.  Quote
Tim Healys Chutney Spoon Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 Makes you wonder how often there's failed tests but it's kept quiet and the fight goes ahead anyway.... Quote
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted October 7, 2022 Author Paid Members Posted October 7, 2022 (edited) I bet it’s happening a lot more than people realise. Just off the top of my head I remember that Dillian Whyte vs Oscar Rivas fiasco. No doubt this would’ve been kept hush and gone ahead if their hand wasn’t forced. What makes me laugh is jobsworths like Johnny Nelson coming out knocking Hearn, I bet his tune would’ve had a considerably different sound to it if Hearn and Matchroom were still with Sky. As for the substance itself, I haven’t read up on it in any great detail but I saw something about it being used to mask other PED use? So maybe that’s why it’s banned. I don’t know. I did see the other day that Chris Eubank Sr had apparently checked into a mental health clinic. He was publicly against the fight happening and I saw speculation that he was checking in there as a bit of a PR move in an attempt to get the fight called off. I know Sr is a funny character and people never take him seriously and all that but I absolutely believe it’s legit. It was still quite recently the poor bloke lost a son who was even younger than Chris Jr. I’ve no doubt he’s been struggling. On top of that, he was worried about Jr coming down in weight. Everyone assumed he was just trying to interject himself into things for attention but from what I could tell he wanted the fight scrapped and had no plans to attend if it went ahead. Hardly attention seeking, he wanted no part of it. He knows all too well the damage that can be done in there and probably never fully dealt with any mental issues he had after the Michael Watson brain injury in 1991. So I get why he’d be worried about his son. Hopefully he’s alright. Love the bloke. Edited October 7, 2022 by wandshogun09 Quote
Ironic Indie Lad Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 So it seems like Clomifene is one of those drugs that people use to get their testosterone production going when their body is no longer doing it naturally. I would say there's a fairly good chance that Benn was on a cycle of gear and Clomifene was part of his cycling off in order to make sure his test production didnt drop through the fucking floor. I would imagine that's why its a banned substance as there is no legitimate reason for a male to be taking this drug. No idea why anyone would say that its not significant. This is the same drug that Brock Lesnar popped for in the Mark Hunt fight and I have a small suspicion that Brock Lesnar MAY have used PEDs in his life! Quote
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted October 7, 2022 Author Paid Members Posted October 7, 2022 ? Â Quote
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted October 7, 2022 Paid Members Posted October 7, 2022 Eubank has played a blinder in the buildup, during the bullshit, and post-bullshit Quote
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