Gooner Posted May 21, 2021 Posted May 21, 2021 Wilder wants redemption and will not step aside for any money confirmed by his trainer and Bob Arum too. I can't believe the man who said Wilder wanted 20 million dollars, has been proven to be talking out of his backside, who woulda ever thought it lol. Wilder to win the rematch against Fury, Usyk beats Joshua and we get Wilder/Usyk for all the belts, it was a dream before but now could become reality.
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted May 21, 2021 Paid Members Posted May 21, 2021 12 hours ago, Lion_of_the_Midlands said: Which one are you picking to lose? If i was picking one, id pick Usyk over Joshua. I could see both losing though.
David Posted May 21, 2021 Posted May 21, 2021 For Wilder to beat Fury we'd need to see Fury come into the fight seriously not arsed. We've already seen what happens if Fury comes in on top form and interested. He blows Wilder to bits. He's just too big, too good a boxer, and generally too good for Wilder to really have much of a chance. The question, of course, is how Fury feels during camp and even on the day. If he comes in half arsed and fucking about then there's every chance he gets sparked.
Paid Members Your Fight Site Posted May 21, 2021 Paid Members Posted May 21, 2021 Apologies if this is a silly question and I’m not too clued up on the “business” side of boxing. But if Usyk does fight Joshua next, do all of Joshua’s belts go on the line? Or only the WBO belt? Basically trying to understand if a single body (i.e. BDO) mandates a title fight against their number one contender, whether all the other belts Joshua hold automatically get put on the line as well, or whether each of the other bodies have to agree to having their belts defended and put on the line.
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted May 21, 2021 Paid Members Posted May 21, 2021 i assume all of them. For Canelo's recent mandatory defence agaisnt Yildrim, both of Canelo's belts were up for grabs despite Yildrim being the WBC mandatory.
Keith Houchen Posted May 21, 2021 Posted May 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Your Fight Site said: Apologies if this is a silly question and I’m not too clued up on the “business” side of boxing. But if Usyk does fight Joshua next, do all of Joshua’s belts go on the line? Or only the WBO belt? Basically trying to understand if a single body (i.e. BDO) mandates a title fight against their number one contender, whether all the other belts Joshua hold automatically get put on the line as well, or whether each of the other bodies have to agree to having their belts defended and put on the line. It’s dependent on the governing body. If they have a mandatory challenger they say the champion must fight next, and the champion signs to fight someone else, they’ll strip the champ or the champ gives up the belt to make his fight happen. It’s all usually sorted out before the fight is announced. If you decide not to have your belt up for grabs and your boy loses, your belt is seriously devalued and looks second rate. There’s been many instances of a multi belt champion having different mandatory challenges. The champ goes after the pay day most of the time, relinquishing the lesser purse or the mandatory challenger accepts stand aside money with a promise to fight the winner. Even then though, the governing body might have a different challenger in mind and we are back to square one!
David Posted May 21, 2021 Posted May 21, 2021 The above is the reason why The Ring Magazine belt is the only one really worth a toss. It's the proper gauge of who's the best in any given division in my opinion.
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted May 21, 2021 Paid Members Posted May 21, 2021 6 hours ago, David said: The question, of course, is how Fury feels during camp and even on the day. If he comes in half arsed and fucking about then there's every chance he gets sparked. That's the worry. I think that version of Fury that beat Wilder in the second fight beats any version of Wilder, but if Fury comes in complacent he could get clobbered. Im interested to see how Wilder looks coming back too. Until the last week or so he's probably done 3-4 interviews since the loss, he spouted some almighty shite when he did them but he's pretty much disappeared, maybe he's been training like a madman? Say whatever you want about the crazy excuses, i didnt doubt for one second that he wanted to come back and have another crack at it. As shit as it is that we aint getting Joshua/Fury, Wilder/Fury III is a fascinating trilogy fight in its own right.
Paid Members Lion_of_the_Midlands Posted May 22, 2021 Paid Members Posted May 22, 2021 Well its double off now as the WBO have ordered Joshua to fight Usyk. Given Matchroom 10 days to negotiate the fight or it goes to purse bids.
jimufctna24 Posted May 22, 2021 Posted May 22, 2021 Usyk knocks out Joshua in the first round. You heard it here first.
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted May 23, 2021 Paid Members Posted May 23, 2021 thats almost as bad a shout as David saying Billy Joe Saunders would drop Canelo
Paid Members Lion_of_the_Midlands Posted May 23, 2021 Paid Members Posted May 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Egg Shen said: thats almost as bad a shout as David saying Billy Joe Saunders would drop Canelo Canelo has never been dropped has he, whereas Joshua has shown some vulnerability, so it's not in the same league at all. Fury has signed to fight Wilder on the 24th of July. So let's see what happens now.
jimufctna24 Posted May 23, 2021 Posted May 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Egg Shen said: thats almost as bad a shout as David saying Billy Joe Saunders would drop Canelo I'm genuinely picking Usyk to win on points though. I think Usyk will dominate the second half of the fight after Joshua tires.
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted May 23, 2021 Paid Members Posted May 23, 2021 38 minutes ago, Lion_of_the_Midlands said: Canelo has never been dropped has he, whereas Joshua has shown some vulnerability, so it's not in the same league at all. I was only joking. I do fancy Usyk against Joshua though. I know people will say "well Usyk struggled against Chisora" but its such a different style of fight. For an undersized heavyweight, Chisora is probably one of the hardest fights in the division, just a big marauding, tough, physical lump.
Mr Lawrence Posted May 23, 2021 Posted May 23, 2021 I fancy AJ to win on points or may be even stop Uysk. Theres a lot more to Joshuas game now than if the fight came a couple of years ago. More of an interesting fight than the Fury one. I see Fury just smashing Wilder again, but quicker.
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