TheLowdown1987 Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 Sugar Ray Robinson fought at heavyweight? I know he challenged for the light heavyweight title but I didn't know he fought heavyweight. My mistake, but it's still one hell of an achievement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members chokeout Posted February 1, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted February 1, 2016 Sugar Ray Robinson fought at heavyweight? I know he challenged for the light heavyweight title but I didn't know he fought heavyweight. Nope he never fought heavyweight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Danger Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 I cant read 'WWE Super Light Weight Title' without my inner monologue saying it in the style of the guy from Banzai! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 No, and like I've said, its a work. It's not real and actual weights wouldn't mean a great deal.Which underscores how stupid and pointless it is. Maybe doing this would do away with the whole 'Mid Card' thing altogether.........I don't know.Do away with the mid card how? Creating a little importance in the women got them a main event in Brooklyn in front of 15,000 people.What is this a reference to? That would never have happened 10 years ago so who knows. You build a division and the importance of 6 or 7 people and it's not the WWE Heavyweight title, who knows, it might happen in time.Without weight limits, everyone has already fought everyone a million times. If you're only allowed to fight people in the same weight class as yourself, that problem gets magnified massively. And you might get a big WrestleMania match out of that segregation with a Rey Mysterio vs Big Show type thing, but the road to get to that special attraction would be worse than what they already do. Wrestling has moved on from the "push teh cruisers" days. The last two WrestleManias finished with little fellas winning the proper belt. Restricting them to their weight class means they'd have had a ten-way match notable only for Ultimo Dragon's inability to walk down a ramp, and they'd be bathed and in their pyjamas by the time the big men closed the show. Who does it benefit? Who would rather have Taka Michinoku's WWF/E career than Seth Rollins'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLowdown1987 Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 Which underscores how stupid and pointless it is. Not really, to quote from the CMLL World Welterweight title wiki The official definition of the Welterweight division in Mexico is a person between 70 kg (150 lb) and 78 kg (172 lb) but is not strictly adhered to these days. I dont know where I said restrict to weight classes. Do away with the mid card how? Maybe there is a programme where the two guys in the Lightweight division are given more time and 'getting over'. It culminates with a PPV Main Event. Now, it's not necessarily doing away with the Mid Card, more like shaking up the Main Event from time to time, as opposed to Heavyweight matches always going on last. But I understand that it is a very unrealistic outcome because wrestling has always been about the main belt. What is this a reference to? Not focusing all of they're energy on the men and Heavyweight division Without weight limits, everyone has already fought everyone a million times. If you're only allowed to fight people in the same weight class as yourself, that problem gets magnified massively. And you might get a big WrestleMania match out of that segregation with a Rey Mysterio vs Big Show type thing, but the road to get to that special attraction would be worse than what they already do. Wrestling has moved on from the "push teh cruisers" days. The last two WrestleManias finished with little fellas winning the proper belt. Restricting them to their weight class means they'd have had a ten-way match notable only for Ultimo Dragon's inability to walk down a ramp, and they'd be bathed and in their pyjamas by the time the big men closed the show. Who does it benefit? Who would rather have Taka Michinoku's WWF/E career than Seth Rollins'? 50/50 booking and everybody facing each other 20 times and then facing each other again but this time on PPV is another argument all together. Thats why I don't watch it anymore, baring a SummerSlam or WM. Maybe changing the way they book TV could help with that aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 What is this women main eventing a show in front of 15000 punters in Brooklyn about? Lita and Trish on Raw? Again, if you're not restricting to weight classes, what is the point of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLowdown1987 Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 Didn't the women headline in NXT. Like I said I don't watch that much. A quick Wiki check says no so I am wrong. Sorry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted February 1, 2016 Moderators Share Posted February 1, 2016 Not really, to quote from the CMLL World Welterweight title wiki The official definition of the Welterweight division in Mexico is a person between 70 kg (150 lb) and 78 kg (172 lb) but is not strictly adhered to these days. I dont know where I said restrict to weight classes. Sorry, but I can't see the point of having a Lightweight, Middleweight and Heavyweight title in that case. It's just names, like IC, US and World, why change it? Oh, also, CMLL can do what they do with the titles as they have a roster of over 100. Also, in Mexico wrestling isn't too hung up on belts like US wrestling. Lucha's important matches are Luchas de Apuestas rather than ones for titles. So it's a different wrestling culture altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamp Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 It's tough to justify something giving titles more meaning when you're comparing it to what CMLL does. CMLL titles are utterly meaningless. They aren't worth squat. You need a database to work out who's even got any of the belts. It's modern day wrestling, weight differences are irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Sugar Ray Robinson fought at heavyweight? I know he challenged for the light heavyweight title but I didn't know he fought heavyweight. My mistake, but it's still one hell of an achievement Ah right, wasn't having a pop by the way. But yeah, amazing stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLowdown1987 Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 Why not rebrand Smackdown as WCW and have a 2nd lot of titles? Not a brand split per se but have more belts to fued for. WWE World Heavyweight Title - WCW World Heavyweight title WWE Intercontinental Title - WCW Intercontinental title WWE Lightweight Title - WCW Lightweight title Would more people watch a different looking product? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mole Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I don't subscribe to the Observer, so don't know if they are right but cagesideseats quoted them of saying they are looking to put on a Cruiserweight tournament this summer on the WWE network. It would most likely be guys who are not on WWE TV or NXT yet and would be a round robin style tournament like the G1 climax over 10 weeks, La Sombra was mentioned and I guess someone like Zach Sabre Jr has been rumoured to sign. It probably doesn't add more subscribers but would make the indy fans happy and could maybe create a buzz for one or two guys who look good in the tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Kaz Hayashi Posted February 5, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted February 5, 2016 Why not rebrand Smackdown as WCW and have a 2nd lot of titles? Not a brand split per se but have more belts to fued for. WWE World Heavyweight Title - WCW World Heavyweight title WWE Intercontinental Title - WCW Intercontinental title WWE Lightweight Title - WCW Lightweight title Would more people watch a different looking product? Because wcw is deemed the overall loser in the Monday night wars and by programmes on the network. Why rebrand smackdown as a loser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Why not rebrand Smackdown as WCW and have a 2nd lot of titles? Not a brand split per se but have more belts to fued for. WWE World Heavyweight Title - WCW World Heavyweight title WWE Intercontinental Title - WCW Intercontinental title WWE Lightweight Title - WCW Lightweight title Would more people watch a different looking product? So all the wrestlers would be wrestling for WWE and WCW? Just rename it the terrible ideas thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanoTheGame Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I'd rather they scrapped one of the midcard belts than did any re-naming shit. It's always been odd to me that they've got two midcard belts that are roughly the same level of importance but sometimes move up or down the ladder depending on whose holding them. Right now, the IC title is on a bigger star than the US title and so is probably a bigger deal, whereas last year when Cena was US Champ, that was obviously the more important of the two. At least back when they had the European title it was always obvious that was a few rungs below the IC. They could really do with establishing which is the more important belt, or preferably just scrap one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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